The first spoilers on the pilot for the spin-off appear to be out! As with many other series, the pilot for a spin-off series are done as a regular episode.


THE LOST CITY (part 1 of 2)
(focuses on ? the spin-off series?)
Written by Brad Wright & Robert C. Cooper
Directed by Martin Wood

The SGC suffers a shocking upheaval when the White House becomes directly involved in saving the world. President Hayes relieves General Hammond of his command and appoints Dr. Theresa Wright, a brilliant and world famous scientist, total control of the project. She's not a big fan of the military at all, and was shocked to learn of the Stargate's existence. Yet even worse than her appointment, is that Senator Kinsey is now Vice President.

While Kinsey believes he can now control the project to his own ends, he discovers Dr. Wright has a mind of her own, and she must decide who to back ? Kinsey or Hammond. This all comes at a time during an extremely crucial mission.

Other info: Jack is injured during a mission. Hammond visits the White House, as the President is an old friend of his from long ago.

Guest cast includes Dr. Theresa Wright, President Henry Hayes, Vice President Kinsey (boo hiss), Michelle, Bra'tac, Ronan, Aide, General Pearson, General Gibson.

Tidbits: Word is that this two parter is the `pilot' for the spin-off series, and that Dr. Wright will be in the series.

# thanks to 'ferret' for the tip

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sg1_spoilme

sounds interesting, are there any threads on the basic story of atlantis,
does anyone think it would be a good idea to tie this episode on the the end of sg1 or completely new?

Sounds interesting. Maybe the existence of the Stargate could be made public at this point, if the story is going to be continue from when sg1 series 7 finishes...

sounds terrible, if the pilot is as bad as it sounds i think i won't watch the rest of the series

Interesting plot. I'm still bummed that MGM will not elect to do a feature film but perhaps it's for the best.

its sounds like the crap is about to hit the fan

In all fairness, this seems like hardly enough information to start judging the episode by itself, as a pilot, or a spin-off. I hope and expect that we will get more soon.

My main concern would be that, as a spin-off for a show in shich SG-1 are not main characters, this/these episodes will be "guest star" heavy with the cast of Atlantis. I hope the writers don't forget that they are now writing this as a season (maybe series) finale for Stargate and that, as fans of Stargate, we want to see SG-1 in action not a bunch of other, new characters that we know nothing about.

sounds cool. Hope its as good as the original series.

But the real question is where is the lost city? It must have to do with Atlantis if its being called Stargate:Atlantis. I think that because they found the 2nd gate in antartica,the lost city must be there. Hiding under all the snow a city,buried for millenia,containing extremely advanced technology.
That would be pretty interesting.All the sgc has to do is melt all the ice. The lost city,found right under our very noses.it should be interesting.

I can't believe they are going to put that crap on TV, i take it that all the asctors will be new as well eg General Hammond will be played by some Ginger heard guy with a hitler Moustache.

Remember, the spoilers posted above are very early preliminary information. The episode has not even started pre-production at this time, so any/all of the info could change, and I'm sure we're not getting a complete picture of the episode yet.

Would you have watched "Children of the Gods" if all you knew was that "some guys in snake helmets attack a secret US military base and kidnap a female SF?"

I'd wait until we get more info before deciding that the whole thing sucks.

QUOTE (Sam's_twin @ Jul 3 2003, 03:44 PM)

In all fairness, this seems like hardly enough information to start judging the episode by itself, as a pilot, or a spin-off.  I hope and expect that we will get more soon. My main concern would be that, as a spin-off for a show in shich SG-1 are not main characters, this/these episodes will be "guest star" heavy with the cast of Atlantis.  I hope the writers don't forget that they are now writing this as a season (maybe series) finale for Stargate and that, as fans of Stargate, we want to see SG-1 in action not a bunch of other, new characters that we know nothing about.

There is a simple remedy for this: BRING BACK JONAS QUINN!!!!

The character knows enough to lead an SG team, has the experience serving with the best (SG1) and would be a good show of respect to Corin Nemec if they offer him a decent lead role after the sham they pulled with the whole Shanks leaving/back deal.

Make Jonas the liason on Earth for his planet, make him lead an SG team with Teal'c's son, and another alien, along with a major in the Air Force, slap on the Atlantis logo, and we got the makings of a decent show.

Bring in SG1 for cameos, intel missions and the such, bring in various Jaffa to link Ry'ac and just keep on making decent stories. Success will not be far behind.

And for god's sake already, MAKE A DAMN VIDEO GAME!!! Is that so much to ask?!?!!?! I didn't think so.

Rocks out. <One angry Ninja!>

This post has been edited by ColonielJackO'NeillRocks: Jul 10th 2003, 5:17 PM

I agree with Sam's Twin. I hope SG-1 is in this alot more than it sounds, especially if it's the series finale. If it is, it is THEIR show.

this may seem like an odd analogy but i hope atlantis doesnt turn out to be a spin off in the same style as the buffy-to-Angel thing. let me explain myself a little. Angel is basically exactly the same as buffy the vamp slayer except the main character, there is very little difference. If atlantis is basically just stargate sg1 with different people is there much point in doing it, why not just carry on with stargate sg1 with characters that everyone has grown attached to already. Still, having said that i guess i will still watch it to see if it is any good!

Well I heard somewhere that it's not going to based around the military. I'm just wondering how they plan on doing that....they're going to have to have an enemy...how are they going to fight them?

Well maybe they will have the military in it, but the main focus will not be on it. So, the Atlantis team could maybe go offworld, discover some stuff, research some more and then find that there is a necessary military mission - this is then undertaken by SG1 (who might guest star).

There are all kinds of possibilities, but in reality a non-military focus will probably make for less exciting viewing unless the writers write some really impressive scripts.

This will probably be the last ep of sg1 unless they do s8 and so unless they've decided by then, so I doubt they'll leave the guys out to much. I hope they don't go overboard on the introducing the spin off, they should leave that for the opening episode of the series, not the possible last one ever of SG-1

I never liked Senator Kinsey and it sounds like they are giving him a bigger part, that kinda sucks. But I have to agree we wont know if it will be good until it actually airs or someone posts a big spoiler about it.

So far the spoilers haven't said much of anything on what'll happen with the new series, and I think that anyone who says it's going to be crap just based on rumor and half substantiated gossip is a total and utter twit
There's so much potential for what could happen with the new show, anything from anubis rearing his head and melting the icecap in an attack, thus revelaing the lost city, to the ancients returning, not necessarily as good guys.
As for some of the ideas that have been mentioned to "improve" the spinoff, some of them are just rehashing the existing series. A new cast, new plot, and new motivation are important. I'd like to see the current SG-team help the new Doc steal the gate so that kinsey couldn't use it, after all, now he's got access to stuff like the prometheus as VP. There's plenty of things that could be done, and we'll see just how good the spin off is when it premiers next year.

I think The Lost City, Part 1 & 2 will be very cool, seen i am a SG-1 Fan i apperiate Stargate SG-1 episodes even if they are good or bad, but The Lost City Part 1 & 2 sound kick ass(probably will be the best episodes ever), btw is Season 7 the last Season?

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UPDATED July 16, 2003 - Note: All information is subject to change until the final episode airs.

EPISODE: THE LOST CITY (This 2-part SG1 episode acts as the pilot for the Atlantis spin-off series) Written by Brad Wright & Robert C. Cooper

Directed by Martin Wood

We'll finally see some Ancients in their natural habitat <G> in this episode. We'll find out how Ayiana ("Frozen") turned into an Ancient-cicle which was thawed out a few million years later in season six?

SG-1 is mixed up once again with Ancient technology (that brain downloading doohickey from "The Fifth Race"). SG-2 has discovered a planet with one of those devices. Daniel proposes bringing back the device to the base for study.

But as usual, something goes wrong because the Gou'ald arrive, which forces SG-1 to take some drastic action to procure the knowledge of the device. Jack has once again stuck his head in the darned thing, which the team destroys before fleeing.

However, worse things are on the horizon as the SGC suffers a shocking upheaval when the White House becomes directly involved in saving the world. President Hayes relieves General Hammond of his command and appoints Dr. Theresa Weir, a brilliant and world famous scientist (who has a couple PhDs and speaks five languages), total control of the project. She's not a big fan of the military at all, and was shocked to learn of the Stargate's existence. Yet even worse than her appointment, is that Senator Kinsey is now Vice President. However, if she doesn't control the program, it could under Kinsey's control, and the President isn't going to let that happen.

At the SGC, Jack has decided to take a few days off to get his affairs in order before his brain goes haywire from the download. Apparently the team will drop by. Some bonding time??

Dr. Weir is given a few months to revamp the operations, and Daniel has a conversation with her that does not go well. Daniel wonders bluntly why Hammond would be replaced with an inexperienced new person. She's disappointed in Daniel for asking such a question. But there's more problems that ? if Jack transformation (his brain thing, not turning into a giant moth or anything) isn't stopped, he'll die. Bra'tac arrives with Ronan, and they are bearers of even more bad news: a pissed-off Anubis is getting his fleet together and is headed toward Earth. Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

Hammond goes to Washington to see the President, whom he's known for many, many years, and the President has another assignment in mind for him, one that could be even more important than commanding the SGC.

Dr. Weir discovers Kinsey is a thorn in her side, particularly when it comes to Jack O'Neill, whom she has come to side with in some matter, even though Kinsey blames him for everything and then admits he wants SG-1 gone. Weir is aghast at this admission and is left wondering what to do next.

Meanwhile, anybody with a really big telescope must be stockpiling Smores, chocolate milk and DVDs in their bomb shelter as several of Anubis' nasty ships have arrived and have taken up orbit around Earth. The evil Anubis wants to know what kind of Ancient alien technology SG-1 scored on that planet which they were chased off of. Fortunately, General Hammond is in Washington and can offer sound and seasoned advice on how to deal with the situation.

Yet ultimately, it's up to SG-1 to save the day, and they (along with Bra'tac and Ronan) head off for planets-unknown to find the lost city while Jack can still speak English. Jack finds the location of the lost city ? it's back on Earth! The trip back to earth takes a little longer when it turns out there's a traitor in their midst and Bra'tac is grievously wounded, but is saved.

Meanwhile, Earth falls under a 'surgical' attack, so it's gonna be hard to hide what's going on. Anubis pops up, virtually, in the President's office, making the usual arrogant Gou'ald threats. The Gou'ald disables the Earth's power structures, making communication impossible. With no other options, they launch Prometheus, with Hammond at the helm, and Major Davis assisting.

SG-1 makes it back to where it all began in "Solitudes" ? the Antarctic ? discovering some ancient buried technology which saves the day, and Earth as well. However, the strain may have been too much for Jack, and Sam fears for his fate (in what seems to be a possibly 'shippy' scene with tears); however, Jack's fate may remain unresolved . . . as Atlantis rises.

Guest cast includes Dr. Theresa Weir (formerly named Theresa Wright), President Henry Hayes, Vice President Kinsey (boo hiss), Michelle, Bra'tac, Ronan, Aide, General Pearson, An Ancient, Ayiana (?) (from "Frozen"), Secret Service Agent, Major Harper (SG2), Colonel Reynolds (SG3), SG3 Airman, Chairman of Joint Chief of Staff, Anubis (boo hiss), Technician, Secretary of Defense, Colonel Kirkland, Shields Officer, Sgt. Harriman, lots of expendable Jaffa extras, and Major Davis is back as well.

### Word is that this episode is the 'pilot' for the Atlantis spin-off series, and that Dr. Weir will be in the series.

# big thanks to 'ferret' for the tip

from < http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sg1_spoilme >

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OK, this (these) episodes are starting to sound better and better!