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post Jan 20th 2003, 12:42 PM
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Season 1, Episode 6 - Cold Lazarus
Original Air Date: August 29, 1997

The SG-1 team discovers a valley full of broken crystals. Alone, O'Neill finds a whole crystal with RED light emanating from it. Upon touching it, he is struck down and a duplicate O'Neill appears. The double returns home through the Stargate, with the unsuspecting team.
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post Jan 20th 2003, 1:05 PM
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ok im not sure if i liked this episode and im not sure if i hated this episode i know ive seen it but its ok i guess but richard dean anderson actually did some outstanding acting in this

teal'c:your world is strange

o'niell:so's yours laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Feb 7th 2003, 6:53 AM
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I've never lost a son, and probably never will, but I would have thought that someone such as Jack and all his training would be better able to deal with it. I guess we can never comment though without having gone through it ourselves.

I love the episode though; I thought the crystals were well done, and it showed a different side to Jack then we normally see.
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post Feb 7th 2003, 4:17 PM
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i cant have kids so im never gonna know what its like but i dont think any1 should lose a child its so sad. sad.gif
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post Feb 8th 2003, 12:00 AM
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I mean no disrespect nor lack of compassion for anyone here, however death is a fact of life, it's going to happen, we should be better able to deal with it.

I think the people who most have trouble are only thinking of themselves. The departed one has gone on to bigger and better things. Ahh, I guess this isn't the place for this talk. whistling.gif
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post Feb 8th 2003, 4:22 AM
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i know, but no person should lose a child when their that young especially by the own weapon and i felt so sorry for jack blaming himself ive got 3 words for him:'its not your fault' crying.gif
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post Feb 8th 2003, 4:46 AM
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Well he is human afterall, I just would've thought he'd be a bit more capable of dealing with it, given that he's normally a calm, cool and collected guy...
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post Feb 8th 2003, 5:31 AM
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i know but this isnt like losing your friend, youve actually lost your own flesh and blood and it cuts a way deeper wound. sad.gif
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post Feb 8th 2003, 8:44 PM
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I cannot say what it would be like to lose a child, but I can definitely say that my two children are indescribably dear to me and if anything were to happen to one of them, it would be very difficult to know or understand how I would react. It would be much more difficult to lose a child than a parent or a sibling. With a parent you kinda grow up expecting that they will die at some point and prepare yourself for it. With a child who you expect to have outlive you, the death is that much more unexpected and deveastating.
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post Feb 9th 2003, 8:44 AM
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to be honest i think i would take it pretty bad if i lost one of my parents because theyve brought me up and i am what i am today because of them and id be grateful for that but how can you let go of that, cause letting go of a child would probaly be alot harder.
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post Feb 10th 2003, 10:54 AM
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Oh it's not easy to lose anyone in your immediate family no matter how well prepared you are. My best friend lost his father to cancer and even though they knew it was coming for some time, you're still never prepared for the actual event.

It's the sudden and unexpected death of a child in such a disturbing manner that would leave you guilt ridden for such a long period of time. In the movie O'Neill was more than happy to virtually commit suicide as he pretty much couldn't live with himself any more. At least by the time the series starts he's got over it somewhat.
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post Feb 10th 2003, 11:31 AM
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O'Niell knew there where better thing in the world that he had to do. He knew Daniel couldn't stay on Abados for long. At the begain, Jack said, they would have found out sooner or later. Losing a son or daughter, is very hard to get over. sad.gif
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post Feb 11th 2003, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE (chiroho @ Feb 10 2003, 10:54 AM)
Oh it's not easy to lose anyone in your immediate family no matter how well prepared you are. My best friend lost his father to cancer and even though they knew it was coming for some time, you're still never prepared for the actual event.

It's the sudden and unexpected death of a child in such a disturbing manner that would leave you guilt ridden for such a long period of time. In the movie O'Neill was more than happy to virtually commit suicide as he pretty much couldn't live with himself any more. At least by the time the series starts he's got over it somewhat.

yeah i agree with that.

and even though you know its coming and you think youre prepared your not cause you want to spend like 1 more second with that person and it gets harder every second you have with them and then finally when they die your like why? why did this happen?
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post Feb 14th 2003, 8:38 AM
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Children are supposed to outlive the parents. That's what make this suh a big deal....plus it almost screwed up his life.....at the time it did
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Says who? And besides, is the greiving parent sad for the child, or merely themselves?
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post Feb 16th 2003, 3:54 AM
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QUOTE (Odinisthor'sdad @ Feb 14 2003, 08:38 AM)
Children are supposed to outlive the parents. That's what make this suh a big deal....plus it almost screwed up his life.....at the time it did

thats not true no one will imediatly know how long their lifespan is going to be when your born you could live for 20 days, 20 monthes or 20 years no one knows.
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In a lame attempt to swing this thread back on topic how do you think those crystal lifeforms survive? What is their purpose? I mean they can't move, or interact, or build things, or go shopping, or conquer other worlds - so what did they do before the snakes cut 'em in half???
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post Feb 20th 2003, 1:52 PM
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praps theyre goal in life is to replicate someone then inhabit that body and to go out and learn basically theyre trying to survive and communicate.
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Errrr surely not a worthwhile GOAL of any race, no?!?!?!? unsure.gif

Perhaps the "scientists" of a race would do that, but the everyday plebs?? I have no idea though what they could have been doing.
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post Feb 21st 2003, 6:20 AM
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well maybe they wanted to explore and didnt want to be those blue crystal thingys anymore.
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QUOTE (ussshorty @ Feb 7 2003, 04:17 PM)
i cant have kids so im never gonna know what its like but i dont think any1 should lose a child its so sad. sad.gif

being unable to have kids is also very sad sad.gif maybe you can adopt
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post Mar 9th 2003, 4:22 PM
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Didn't Sarah think it was strange being able to see and talk to her dead son. She seemed to accept this without question.
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QUOTE (Major Gmed @ Mar 9 2003, 04:22 PM)
Didn't Sarah think it was strange being able to see and talk to her dead son. She seemed to accept this without question.

That is one of the many loose ends in Stargate SG-1. A lot of people have seen a lot of weird stuff but none of them every spread the word. I guess the NID visits them all and threatens to make them disappear or run them over on the streets if they talk.
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post Mar 22nd 2003, 8:15 AM
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I kinda know how it feels to loose a child. My sister's three month old baby died in an accident and her husbend blamed himself for months afterwards. She was living with me at the time and because she was quite young, I looked after the little fella for the most part.

I'm not saying I was more devistated than she was when he died, just that as a mother with older children of my own, I knew what she would be missing out on.

I also empathise with Jack feeling to blame because Charlie died by Jack's own handgun. My brother-in-law was pretty screwed up after his son died too. I woke up drenched in sweat and screaming NO for weeks afterwards.

No-one should have to go through that.

I would also like to point out that it wasnt actually JACK having a hard time dealing in that episode but the Crystal entity using his form. Jack was unconscious during most of that episode. unsure.gif
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