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305 - Learning Curve| Arcady |
Posted: Jan 11 2003, 03:41 AM
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Base Commander  Group: Admin Posts: 3,056 Member No.: 1 Joined: 26-November 02 Location: Cincinnati, OH USA Gender: Male  |
Season 3, Episode 5 - Learning Curve
Original Air Date: July 23, 1999 In the pursuit of knowledge, Jack O'Neill, Teal'c, and Daniel Jackson travel to the planet Orban as part of an exchange program. O'Neill and the rest of SG-1 soon discover that the children on this planet are used to acquire knowledge for the entire population, then discarded. |
   
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| ussshorty |
Posted: Jan 12 2003, 06:42 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,700 Member No.: 215 Joined: 1-January 03 Location: planet wales. Gender: Female |
god i would hate to be as smart as merrin but it had a great ending cin the kids have fun.
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| Cassandra |
Posted: Jan 18 2003, 08:10 PM
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Airman First Class  Group: Members Posts: 89 Member No.: 205 Joined: 30-December 02 Location: U S of A Gender: |
I think it would have been happier if they would have asked for someone to show them how to teach the children. But I loved that Jack wanted to reconnect with Merrin.
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| ussshorty |
Posted: Jan 19 2003, 09:08 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,700 Member No.: 215 Joined: 1-January 03 Location: planet wales. Gender: Female |
that jack and merrin bond was so sweet its normally sam that bonds with the kids i know she did with merrin but cin jack bond with some1 was so nice.
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| AOT |
Posted: Feb 21 2003, 04:21 AM
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Captain  Group: Members Posts: 812 Member No.: 543 Joined: 4-February 03 Location: Not Given Gender: |
I found the entire thing offensive. What gives the SGC right to go in and change things to how they think it should be? I better stop lest I get barred for criticising a particular real life race :|
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| PAL |
Posted: Mar 8 2003, 04:45 PM
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Major  Group: Members Posts: 1,185 Member No.: 368 Joined: 16-January 03 Location: Canada Gender: Male |
The SGC does tend to go around changing everyone, like a certain real life group. This is what sets it apart from Star Trek though. Merrin was cool. She was insanely smart for a 13? year old. |
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| *Osiris |
 Posted: Apr 19 2003, 05:18 AM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 14 Member No.: 1,365 Joined: 13-April 03 Location: Fraserburgh Scotland Gender: Female |
I thought the connection between Merrin and Jack was so sweet. I felt so sorry for Merrin. not knowing the meaning of "fun". Poor Merrin
 . I used to always cry at the end, when Jack is talking to Merrin, and they have to start all over again.  |
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| elerimc |
Posted: Jun 7 2003, 02:15 PM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 40 Member No.: 1,721 Joined: 4-June 03 Location: Kentucky (aah! When can I leave again?) Gender: |
As someone else stated, that's what sets Stargate apart from some of the other well-known scifi series. The SGC does change the people they meet. They don't have a choice. Most of time they're so far advanced of the culture they're meeting that change is an unasked for but necessary evil. The SGC doesn't have a "Prime Directive" and I think it would hurt them to have one. Just look at real life scenarios from the last thirty years. It's an unavoidable conclusion to the situation. But (and this is just MHO here) I don't think Jack was trying to stop their whole way of life, just give them other options. While he would never condone what he saw as the abuse of children, he was stuck without a viable option to give them. And that's what was so beautiful about the time he spent with Merrin. I think he knew what would happen when she went back, so he did what he could to help them. |
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| Mighty Thor |
Posted: Jun 7 2003, 02:20 PM
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Major Group: Members Posts: 1,195 Member No.: 1,583 Joined: 12-May 03 Location: Wales,Uk Gender: Male |
merrin is 12, and the prime directive is unrealistic, jack always bonds with children,examples: charlie(not his kid)merrin and all those school kids in lurning curve to name a few
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| mithwriter |
Posted: Jun 7 2003, 04:06 PM
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Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,572 Member No.: 885 Joined: 26-February 03 Location: Not Given Gender: Female |
My favorite aspect of this episode was seeing O'Neill in a civilian environment at the school with those kids. We got to see him in non-soldier mode, and it's such a rare thing that they show. It's like another part of his personality that he keeps hidden away from his life in the military....
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| Drizzt Do'Urden |
Posted: Jun 9 2003, 11:06 AM
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Second Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 512 Member No.: 1,083 Joined: 12-March 03 Location: a galaxy far, far away Gender: |
it's probably showing what he was like playing with his own kid.
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| ramuund |
Posted: Jun 28 2003, 05:29 PM
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Lieutenant Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,322 Member No.: 1,871 Joined: 21-June 03 Location: On top of the world! Gender: Female |
i would like to see more non military background storys on jack especially if it envolves sam- shipper till the day i die!
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| Emmyloo |
Posted: Jul 8 2003, 03:02 PM
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Captain Group: Members Posts: 942 Member No.: 1,745 Joined: 7-June 03 Location: Kent (UK) Gender: Female |
Yeah, i liked that aspect of this ep too. We got to see the fatherly side to Jack. He loves kids and we got to see what a great father he must have been to Charlie. |
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| Apis |
Posted: Jul 17 2003, 03:44 PM
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Brigadier General Group: Members Posts: 2,200 Member No.: 1,116 Joined: 15-March 03 Location: Canada Gender: Male |
This was boring, which is pretty pathetic because I even like slower-paced Stargate episodes. This, though, had no action, no special effects (except the miniature that was the advanced city), and most of all; no interesting story-line. This was too much like the episodes with Cassandra, except at the end of it I asked myself what was the point of even watching the episode because it isn't even a reoccuring element throughout future Stargate episodes.
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| Daniel V |
Posted: Jul 22 2003, 12:23 PM
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Senior Airman Group: Members Posts: 100 Member No.: 2,069 Joined: 19-July 03 Location: Not Given Gender: |
I thorght this episode showed just how much jack misses his son quite sad stuff.
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| Spacen |
Posted: Jul 24 2003, 12:33 PM
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Civilian Group: Banned Posts: 13 Member No.: 2,105 Joined: 22-July 03 Location: Kansas City, Missouri, USA Gender: Male |
It's really odd for career military men to be good fathers. He must have been the exception. |
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| SSG Ret |
Posted: Jul 24 2003, 03:36 PM
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Captain Group: Members Posts: 888 Member No.: 1,926 Joined: 27-June 03 Location: Austin, TX, USA Gender: Female |
Huh? Examples, please (other than in Hollywood). From what I have noticed, military men tend to make better fathers, as the song says, "You can bet they know what they're fighting for." They may not be able to spend as much time at home as they want, but what they spend they tend to make count! Oh course, if my daughter goes into the military, she will be the fifth generation in her father's family, so I will admit to some (a lot) bias here.
 This post has been edited by SSG Ret on Jul 24 2003, 03:37 PM |
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| Spacen |
Posted: Jul 29 2003, 09:42 PM
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Civilian Group: Banned Posts: 13 Member No.: 2,105 Joined: 22-July 03 Location: Kansas City, Missouri, USA Gender: Male |
I don't have a lot of personal experience. I just lived in a town growing up that had a lot of military families and the fathers were always gone and when they were on leave, they never spent any time with their kids. Maybe I didn't get a true picture. |
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| dorien |
Posted: Oct 8 2003, 06:34 PM
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There is a very important recurring element from this ep...the naquadah reactor. Besides seeing Jack in non-military mode, which was good, we also see Sam working/struggling to learn something new before she finally succeeds. It's not all easy for our resident uberscientist/genius. I also liked Teal'c's interaction with Tomin. The kid was obviously awed but not intimidated. At some point in their history the Orbanians must have learned through teaching. So why didn't it occur to them to try that with the Urrone children? |
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| SSG Ret |
Posted: Oct 8 2003, 08:12 PM
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Captain Group: Members Posts: 888 Member No.: 1,926 Joined: 27-June 03 Location: Austin, TX, USA Gender: Female |
By the time they got to the level where they were using the children for learning, they might not have had any traditional teachers. Also, if the 'superior' methods wouldn't work on the kids afterwards, they may have decided that the 'old time' methods would be even less likely to work.
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| Apis |
Posted: Nov 13 2003, 06:28 PM
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Brigadier General Group: Members Posts: 2,200 Member No.: 1,116 Joined: 15-March 03 Location: Canada Gender: Male |
True, good catch I guess I forgot about that .I do have a question regarding this episode, however; do we ever find out why the Goa'uld left that planet? From what I can tell Daniel was able to prove that the Goa'uld were present on Orivan(sp) up until 100 years ago, he then said that all we have to do now is prove why the Goa'uld left, and yet I don't recall any explanation proceeding this statement. Any ideas? |
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| +++becky+++ |
 Posted: Nov 14 2003, 06:50 AM
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Staff Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 163 Member No.: 2,590 Joined: 24-October 03 Location: nc usa Gender: Female |
i liked the show....and i dont see a problem with some one trying to help, but when they obviously didnt want help jack should have stoped tho in that case im glad he kept going
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| ericding |
Posted: Feb 23 2004, 12:19 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 1 Member No.: 2,738 Joined: 15-November 03 Location: Nijmegen, The Netherlands Gender: Male |
And I liked when Jack said: "Dogs are my favourite people."
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| Jetdeck |
Posted: Mar 16 2004, 10:09 PM
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Technical Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 253 Member No.: 2,965 Joined: 14-December 03 Location: Chicago Gender: Female |
Yes, he is definitely relaxed around kids. Wylie is one lucky little girl! |
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