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> Who will be O'Neill's true love?, Who will he be with in the end?
Who will he be with in the end?
Who will he be with in the end?
Sara [ 5 ] ** [2.12%]
Kynthia-(Brief Candle) [ 1 ] ** [0.42%]
Laira-(A Hundred Days) [ 2 ] ** [0.85%]
Sam [ 204 ] ** [86.44%]
The Stargate (The series ends with him going off on a new adventure) [ 8 ] ** [3.39%]
The stars (The series ends with him back on his roof, looking through a telescope) [ 16 ] ** [6.78%]
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post Sep 25th 2004, 11:09 AM
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I say Sara. Hopefully by now, enough time has passed that he can forgive himself, and we know she already forgave him. If he got back together with her, that would give me the most closure.
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post Sep 25th 2004, 1:53 PM
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Well this is a topic that has been done, in many different forms, a few times but god do I love them................


Well I am not going to dodge the fact that I a HUGE shipper and I truly do hope that Jack and Sam end up together but saying that- the ending of the show would be great if it had O'Neill on his roof again and it pans out.......ooooooh, sounds cool.



I highly doubt that Sara will be anywhere in the show, in person, as I think that she is a storyline that finished very early on in the show when O'Neill "Moved" on from that with his ex wife and late son.


I really think that if they were going to have anyone like Kinthia another episode they would have made her a little less 2-d than the charater was in Brief Candle.

.............I wonder if O'neill has a child though................*ponders*...........nah, not a chance!lol
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post Sep 25th 2004, 2:15 PM
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Personally, I think he should be with Sara at the end. At least that is what I am hoping for.

But anyway, this should have been posted in the "Shipper Haven" Forum. I am sure a moderator will move it eventually, if they don't close it.
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post Sep 25th 2004, 4:51 PM
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Why does Jack (or Sam or Daniel or Teal'c for that matter) need to be with a "true love" in the end?

I like how season 8 is exploring the character's lives outside of the SGC but an ending that involves "true loves" for the members of SG-1 in order for them to be happy is an ending I really hope the show avoids.
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post Sep 25th 2004, 5:59 PM
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QUOTE (dorien @ Sep 25th 2004, 1:51 PM)
Why does Jack (or Sam or Daniel or Teal'c for that matter) need to be with a "true love" in the end?

I like how season 8 is exploring the character's lives outside of the SGC but an ending that involves "true loves" for the members of SG-1 in order for them to be happy is an ending I really hope the show avoids.

biggrin.gif I second that motion.

I was going to say, "why does he have to be with anyone?"

Whatever happens, I just hope the characters are happy. smile.gif
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post Sep 25th 2004, 6:22 PM
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I hate sounding like a broken record (or a scratched CD wink.gif), but I have to third dorien's statement. I, for one, am getting sick and tired of this romance angle. Not too long ago Shanks said that he's not really gunning for Daniel to find romance because the story isn't about that. I found myself agreeing with him, and I have to wonder why EVERYONE has to "get hitched" in the end. I recognize that "love and acceptance" are a couple of the basic human needs as theorized by Maslow (check out his Basic Hierarchy of Needs), but COME ON! If I wanted romance I'd buy those cheesy Harlequin novels or watch something on Lifetime. I like Jack. I like him so much that I don't want to see his character belittled by thrusting him into some hackneyed, contrived, trite romantic interlude. He has "love and acceptance" in a nonromantic form. But in the end, if he's happy doing whatever, I suppose I'll have to be happy too. Or atleast not as vocal in my complaints. smile.gif

I would say something about adolescent fantasies and wish fullfillment, but I'm not quite a psychologist yet. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 26th 2004, 6:26 AM
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I don' think that the show is going to be ending with a huge mass orgy, my god that would be an interesting thought sick.gif , but I think there will be some characters by the end of the series that have found some closure to thier outside lives- because that is apart of the story, contrary to popular belief.

O'Neill suffered badly, just before the stargate project, in his personal life and that has effected the man that led SG1. He wouldn't be the same if he was married, had two kids and was happy do dah with the world- he would be boring. I am not just talking about the Jack/Sam thing here but I am just talking about the personal side to the story which often include some sought of romantic interest which adds depth to a character. Now before you all start to go like rabits on viagra, and get majorly worked up, just think how much you have learned about what the characters are like because you have seen glimpses of them out of the uniform and away from base that wouldn't have been seen, and improved the knowledge of the character, had all we done is watch them go off world killing bad guys all the time.

The reason that I am saying this is because so people just get so damm worked up over, even the slightest sent of, shipperness. So the characters have love lives. Just have alittle fun then move on. If you make a big deal of the shippers then they are going to get under your skin and you start being picky.


I have heard alot of people on the forum going- "Well it might have been seen as shippy but I wasn't looking at that..........". That is a really good way. If you don't want to hear or even think about shipperness don't get your ass all worked up about it. If you don't like it- don't post about it and wait for the topic to be closed or moved or most likely- sink into oblivion of the archives.


I am not singling out anyone, or what has been said here, I am just saying my two cents like we all have.
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post Sep 26th 2004, 7:58 AM
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I think that this poll should be on shipper haven site and not here.
Oh well, i guest you know who i'll chose biggrin.gif
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post Sep 26th 2004, 9:00 AM
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Well, where is the other section. Not that I suport it, I do think that Jack and Daniel will be 'parteners'. I think it would ruin the show, but it does seem odd, they way they are so 'friendly'...
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post Sep 26th 2004, 10:29 AM
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In the end, despite what some people might want, I think it will be Sam. If not her, then I don't know.

Now don't pounce, let me explain my reasons why.
  • Closure: Grace wasn't that much closure, and they kept with slightly shippy bits for the rest of the season. Either Sam will dump Pete, or Jack will find someone else. Given the fact that the show was in favor of S/J ship for seven years makes me lean towards the Sam dumps Pete option.
  • Fan input: Many fans are S/J shippers, and they are very vocal. However, there are some equally vigilant anti-S/J shippers.

*awaits smacking fish and rebuttals*
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post Sep 26th 2004, 1:23 PM
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No smacking fish and rebuttals from me. I certainly agree with you wholeheartedly about the closure bit and I did notice the slightly shippy bits in the latter half of S7. I'm glad I wasn't the only one as I thought I was going slightly insane!

To keep things in balance, I see no reason why O'Neill couldn't have 2 true loves at the end of the series. Sam (even just fishing together) and the Stargate (Jack's job for the last 7 or 8 years)
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post Sep 26th 2004, 2:45 PM
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Going to have to agree with the majority. Don't see why the characters need to find true love to be happy or complete at the end of the season or series.

But, I too would like to see some closure. Yeah, the writers have been always hinted at some sort of relationship between O'Neill and Carter, but they never did anything about it. They just teased the shippers into believing that there could have been something.

Well, it's 8 years later, if something hasn't happened by now, then I doubt that it will.

I am still pulling for Sam and Pete. I've always felt that Carter should have been dating someone with no ties to the SGC.

Now, O'Neill, he's different. Here's a guy who was married, but now separated. Yeah, I believe that time has healed the pain from that schism and it would be good for him to start dating too.

But... here's a guy who's really married to his job. Some how I can't see him in a lasting relationship. He's got too much emotional baggage to deal with.

I think it's best O'Neill stays single by the end of the show.

my own opinions...

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post Sep 26th 2004, 4:21 PM
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QUOTE (Child of the gods @ Sep 26th 2004, 10:00 AM)
Well, where is the other section. Not that I suport it, I do think that Jack and Daniel will be 'parteners'. I think it would ruin the show, but it does seem odd, they way they are so 'friendly'...

If you keep scrolling down through the forums there is a section called "Shipper Haven" in the Stargate Fanatics section. There is also a Slash zone in there for people who support relationships like Jack and Daniel. No flaming in those sections though.

this topic has been moved to Shipper Haven
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post Sep 26th 2004, 4:40 PM
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No flaming? What about the Great Ship War? Surely there will be fire and all sorts of destuction in such a campain. wink.gif
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post Sep 26th 2004, 4:46 PM
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Anyone remember this thread?
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post Sep 26th 2004, 5:45 PM
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Yeah. I posted in it...I liked it, but unfortunately it's dead and in the archives. I don't suppose it would be possible to revitalize it...there's new stuff to talk about!

Lord Malice: Shipper haven was created in part as a reaction to the "war" you speak of. There is no war, we do need to be nice regardless of our ship views.

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post Sep 26th 2004, 6:24 PM
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ther was awar and i missed it? I feel so cheated. who won?
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post Sep 26th 2004, 6:28 PM
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You know, if there were ever a "war" I don't think any side would emerge victorious. Everyone seems pretty much split on the issue.

BTW, I'd love to see the Great Ship Debate reopened. It was moved to the archives back before we had the Shipper Haven. There were some pretty good discussions going on in there.
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post Sep 26th 2004, 6:40 PM
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There is indeed a war, right now there is a lull. Awhile back there was alota heated discusion about the pete situation. And it really flared up in the "Reaction to Affinity" thread. Unable to control my Sith rage I declared war, I beleive I said at the time"Begun this Ship War has..." And it stirred things up a little, but now it is alot calmer. I believe some were amused by it, and some were most definatly not. I beleive hostilities will open again when the show comes back from hiatus. Maybee it's all in my head, I'm quite insane. I didn't realize this was a no flame area when I declared war, but what is done is done. I can only continue the fight, and hope others will join me in our march to victory! With that said i think we have wandered off topic. I was thinking that maybee we'll see some j/s resolution in the upcoming episode with Maybourne. If I'm not mistaken Jack is with Sam trying to figure some peice of Anciant tech. There is the opportunity for them to talk. (Hopefully).
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post Sep 27th 2004, 2:44 AM
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*Wipes tear from eye*

I remember the good old days, lol, when the wars were rife!


But I don't think that the "war" was such but a really well written and discussed topic! We will all have our own opinion on what is what, when it comes to the shipper debate, and I love that. How boring would it be if everyone agreed with each other? I mean, seriously, who loves coming here for a good discussion, with a cup of tea and some hot toast, and to debate for many a night of one tiny little thing in the grand scheme of things!lol! I sure do!


Personally, as you would have already read, I am shipper and will always go on that it will be Sam.

It can't be any different, as said above don't flame me for that, but if it isn't sam, for Jack anyhoos, it couldn't be anyone else because there would be such a backlash if the show finished with him going off with someone else and, most likely, the same even if they DID end up together! It is a no win situation for the writer as there as many anti-shippers as there are the shippers- It is which enemy will they "get in bed with"?
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post Sep 27th 2004, 9:26 AM
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QUOTE (ramuund @ Sep 27th 2004, 2:44 AM)

It can't be any different, as said above don't flame me for that, but if it isn't sam, for Jack anyhoos, it couldn't be anyone else because there would be such a backlash if the show finished with him going off with someone else and, most likely, the same even if they DID end up together! It is a no win situation for the writer as there as many anti-shippers as there are the shippers- It is which enemy will they "get in bed with"?

That's why I think they'll probably leave it open to interpretation. I just hope that they let them go fishing together...
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post Sep 27th 2004, 11:27 AM
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That would be a good ending for me- the prospect of the two of them instead of actually seeing it!


But at the same time my shippermad heart also would like to perhaps see just alittle as that would fufill something that the shippers having been yearning for since Divide and Conquer!

I understand where you are coming from.
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post Sep 27th 2004, 11:37 AM
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i really like the idea of it ending where it began at his house looking through a tellescope. it was something i hadn't thought about befor but i really like it.
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post Sep 27th 2004, 5:02 PM
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QUOTE (ramuund @ Sep 27th 2004, 11:27 AM)

But at the same time my shippermad heart also would like to perhaps see just alittle as that would fufill something that the shippers having been yearning for since Divide and Conquer!


My shippermad heart agrees with yours. I'm just trying to think from the writers point of view, what kind of ending is least likely to upset vast numbers of Stargate fans. This is the nearest I can think of to a compromise.
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