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Nikoli Kross
post Feb 11th 2003, 6:39 PM
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What would be the downside of the Stargate project becoming public knowledge? I mean yeah, religion might take a perverbial foot to the balls, and some countries might get mad that the US and Russia were hiding this kind of thing. But, beyond that, I really don't see much of a problem.
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post Feb 11th 2003, 6:44 PM
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Mostly, worried about the population panicking...

I know it doesnt seem bad to us, but the knowledge that something really IS out there. And some of them are highly advance and our enemies will create major panic in some people.

Its strange really, some people handle some info better than others. Ive seen people than actually freak out with certain info given to them that wouldnt affect most of us, yet to them it causes some kind of pychological break down or something.

I dont think its much of a probelm people knowing but it depends if the majority of us are willing to accpet.
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post Feb 11th 2003, 7:05 PM
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True, I'd be the most worried about Muslims and other followers of Islam, because this kind of revelation would be like shoving a Jaffa staff up their butts and firing, it would be devastating to them and would probably cause them to start commiting suicide or worst case scenario, going berserk and attacking everything in sight. ph34r.gif
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post Feb 11th 2003, 7:39 PM
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Nikoli Kross I don't know why you say that; they wouldn't react any differently to anyone else, no??

As for the general public panicking, well surely it would depend on how the issue was sold, and portrayed to us. If they were open and honest and said this is it, we have friends out there, here's Thor's smiling face (and waving finger), perhaps most would be receptive....
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post Feb 11th 2003, 7:41 PM
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I said that because the Stargate, Goa'uld, Tokra, Asgards and such would kind of go against their belief system, I think.

Here's how I'd reveal the Stargate project:

I'd get O'Neill to try and talk Thor and a member of the Tokra to come to the press conference, Teal'c would represent the Jaffa. Anyways, I'd wheel the SG out to wherever the conference would be (or keep it where it is and just have the conference at SGC. The gate would be covered and guards would obviously be there to make sure no one tries to peek. When the conference begins, I'd do alittle speech and then remove the drape from the gate and have it activated, I would say something like "ladies and gentlemen, meet the Stargate..."

Then, I'd introduce everyone to Thor, the Tokra and the Jaffa and tell them about the Goa'uld.
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True it would. But what about the Christians? The Buddhists? Anyone for that matter. We all have our beliefs, and most dictate one God full stop. I think it'd be a kick in the teeth for all of us, but still a major step forward smile.gif
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post Feb 11th 2003, 7:51 PM
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It is a major step forward... but at what cost?

I think this day and age, we are ready to accpet something like this than say a 100 years before (1900's), although there are some people out there who will just go crazy. In another 100 years, we will be even more ready.

The buddhist believes in aliens anyway so it wont affect them too much, but even some non-religious people will have a hard time accept - questions such as 'Are they really friendly?', 'Cant we just talk instead of going to war?' etc etc

There will always going to be people who will oppose to 'aliens' coming to our planets no matter how good they are - probably be termed as alienist terrorist type.
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post Feb 11th 2003, 7:53 PM
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I don't think Buddhism has any deities.
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post Feb 11th 2003, 7:55 PM
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QUOTE (Nikoli Kross @ Feb 12 2003, 12:53 AM)
I don't think Buddhism has any deities.

That is right... although they do have deities, but they are not termed as God...
more like ascended. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 11th 2003, 8:22 PM
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So, they worship the ancients? w00t.gif
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post Feb 11th 2003, 8:24 PM
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Even among the most radical of religions there are moderates and there are extreemist. I think it's those who believe in the absolute that will have the most difficult, if not inability, to except the fact that we are not alone. But beyond just the revamping of one's faith, it is mostly the lost of control that those who head the various religions that will keep us from learing if there really is life elsewhere.
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QUOTE (Chrominium @ Feb 12 2003, 08:51 AM)
The buddhist believes in aliens anyway...

Excuse me! Did I miss something? On what basis are you saying this?


QUOTE (Chrominium @ Feb 12 2003, 08:55 AM)
That is right... although they do have deities, but they are not termed as God...
more like ascended.  biggrin.gif

Oh, man, you have been watching too much Stargate tongue.gif
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post Feb 11th 2003, 9:23 PM
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I think the general population is realy to know that there are aliens and a means to get to other worlds.

IMHO, about 99% of the population would be relieved that there are other worlds out there and a few might want to take advantage of them by traveling there to start a new life. I know I would love to help build a colony on a new world.
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post Feb 12th 2003, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE (AOT @ Feb 12 2003, 01:35 AM)
Excuse me! Did I miss something? On what basis are you saying this?

Oh, man, you have been watching too much Stargate tongue.gif

My parents follow the Buddhist religion, so I know about it. They belive in alien entities that lives outside of our worlds on other planets - and one of the basis of where we come from originally.

The interpretation from Chinese to English is sometimes inaccurate - much like Happy New Year in Chinese is NOT 'Kung Hei Fat Choi', but I wont go into that.
The Buddha is an ascended human, higher conciousness, higher being, not a God as people would put it. Even the Goddess of Mercy is not really a Goddess in the Chinese translation - its only because translating it to the English alternative they didnt have an approriate word. But she was human (actually she used to be a he), before she ascended.

I hope all this makes sense. I dont really wont to talk religion unless you really want to hear about it.
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post Feb 13th 2003, 6:40 AM
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QUOTE (Nikoli Kross @ Feb 12 2003, 02:05 AM)
True, I'd be the most worried about Muslims and other followers of Islam, because this kind of revelation would be like shoving a Jaffa staff up their butts and firing, it would be devastating to them and would probably cause them to start commiting suicide or worst case scenario, going berserk and attacking everything in sight. ph34r.gif

what do u know about muslims?
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post Feb 14th 2003, 10:54 AM
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They don't like pork tongue.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Feb 14th 2003, 5:14 PM
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QUOTE (Odinisthor'sdad @ Feb 14 2003, 05:54 PM)
They don't like pork tongue.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

because it's forbidden.
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why is that again...
i would love to atually know there are other life out there
and at a confrence i would have 10 x 303s and 12 x302s come out from them to show how powerful they are.
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post Feb 14th 2003, 5:28 PM
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yeah.
but it would destroy all the governments.
the world would unite.
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post Feb 14th 2003, 7:40 PM
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QUOTE (Chrominium @ Feb 13 2003, 12:39 AM)
My parents follow the Buddhist religion, so I know about it. They belive in alien entities that lives outside of our worlds on other planets - and one of the basis of where we come from originally.

With all due respect to you who knows about Buddhism because your parents follow it, I AM a Buddhist of the Mahayana tradition, and to my knowledge this whole alien aspect you mention in your posts is incorrect. Please, point me in the direction of some/any doctrines that address this issue.

I wholeheartedly agree with everything else you wrote, just this one issue is a bit, ahhh... of course I could be wrong wink.gif
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post Feb 14th 2003, 9:00 PM
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QUOTE (AOT @ Feb 15 2003, 02:40 AM)
QUOTE (Chrominium @ Feb 13 2003, 12:39 AM)
My parents follow the Buddhist religion, so I know about it. They belive in alien entities that lives outside of our worlds on other planets - and one of the basis of where we come from originally.

With all due respect to you who knows about Buddhism because your parents follow it, I AM a Buddhist of the Mahayana tradition, and to my knowledge this whole alien aspect you mention in your posts is incorrect. Please, point me in the direction of some/any doctrines that address this issue.

I wholeheartedly agree with everything else you wrote, just this one issue is a bit, ahhh... of course I could be wrong wink.gif

so buddhists don't believe in aliens?
can u show me some doctrines about it.
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post Feb 15th 2003, 1:39 AM
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well Chrominium has a point im cambodian and a buddhist and my parents are hard core buddhist. and even they beleave that there are aliens. from what i learned from being a buddhist your mind has to be open to all Possibiltys. that mean alien and all and if you dont beleave that go ask a monk i did. they say the same thing, dont have a close mind let it be open to all possibiltys. and yes we beleave in something like Ascension. try your best to do good in this life time so you can move to a higher plane of existence. been a buddhsit sence i was born.
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If you believe in a god, why can't you believe in Aliens. Just cause it's not in the bible doesn't mean it's true..........but I'm Agnostic so what the fuck do I know
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