 If SG-1 met Yahweh... |
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| Enlil |
 Apr 26th 2004, 7:51 PM
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Airman Basic  Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: March 16th 2004 From: USA Member No.: 4,126 Gender: Male  |
I think the writers have steered clear of this idea because it would be too controversial. However, they have certainly set up the idea that the Ancients are the kind of characters that might be used to portray Christ (ascended). Just as the Asgard explain the UFO sightings in the show, I wonder if the writers are hinting at anything. I like the fact that SG-1 is not a preachy show (like Star Trek sometimes was) and that they have focused on the Egyptian, Greek and Semitic gods. And I like that the Asgard are portrayed as the Norse deities. Surely some of the mono-theistic gods could be introduced in the Stargate Universe, though.
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| RookiesRevenge |
Apr 26th 2004, 9:08 PM
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Lieutenant Colonel  Group: Members Posts: 1,490 Joined: June 23rd 2003 Member No.: 1,891 Gender: Male |
monotheistic gods sounds like an oxymoron to me
 As far as I know, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are the only religions to believe in one true God. The others are all polytheistic or believe in no particular god at all. The writers surely don't want to offend their main audience, like you said, so they almost always stick to the old myths few really care about. |
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| Tashunka_Witko |
Apr 27th 2004, 2:58 AM
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Colonel  Group: Members Posts: 1,743 Joined: April 15th 2004 From: Landw?st, Germany Member No.: 4,824 Gender: Male |
If they'll do so it has to be the leader of the Ancients, the most advanced being / non-being in the Universe. But I don't really think they'll do something like that. There was another topic on which we discussed a familiar topic.
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| Dan |
Apr 27th 2004, 3:45 AM
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Airman First Class  Group: Members Posts: 93 Joined: February 23rd 2004 From: Britain Member No.: 3,634 Gender: Male |
Ok, I don't mean to sound like an idiot here, but who/what is Yahweh?
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| Tashunka_Witko |
Apr 27th 2004, 3:56 AM
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Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,743 Joined: April 15th 2004 From: Landw?st, Germany Member No.: 4,824 Gender: Male |
From an internet site: "First of all, the name Yahweh, "LORD," (notice the English translation convention of rendering this name in large and small capital letters, as opposed to "Lord," which renders another word meaning something like "master") is a proper noun used exclusively of the God of Israel. Elohim, on the other hand, is a generic term for "God" or "gods" that only subsequently became a proper name. Yahweh is used wherever the Bible stresses God's personal relationship with his people and the ethical aspect of his nature." Here's the full link: http://answering-islam.org.uk/BibleCom/yahweh.html Or try to google, there's a lot of it. |
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| S.G.C |
Apr 27th 2004, 4:03 AM
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Major General  Group: Members Posts: 2,675 Joined: November 10th 2003 From: Australia Member No.: 2,714 Gender: Male |
I don't know what the hell your talking about but it doesn't sound like a viking god so i think the thing your talking about is good as a goa'uld.
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| Dan |
Apr 27th 2004, 12:48 PM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 93 Joined: February 23rd 2004 From: Britain Member No.: 3,634 Gender: Male |
Thanks for that
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| Baal |
Apr 27th 2004, 12:58 PM
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Captain  Group: Members Posts: 917 Joined: January 4th 2004 From: Where the action is Member No.: 3,136 Gender: Male |
It would ruin the show, and people might even sue.
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| Kaileron |
Apr 27th 2004, 1:04 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,869 Joined: April 4th 2003 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 1,284 Gender: Male |
They wouldn't do it because it would ruin the show Simply, it would be the same if God was portrayed by an alien. i think lots of people wouldnt like that and the same goes for yahweh.
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| rob117 |
Apr 27th 2004, 4:18 PM
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Second Lieutenant  Group: Members Posts: 540 Joined: April 18th 2004 From: Albany, New York Member No.: 4,858 Gender: Male |
I think it would make for an excellent storyline, but they wouldn't do it because it would get people pissed. If they did, I think he would fit best as a Goa'uld system lord.
Technically, Yahweh is a Semitic deity, derived from the Semitic god El (or Baal? I don't know if they're the same deity or not). But if Baal and El are the same deity, then technically, they already have put God on the show as a Goa'uld.  |
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| Osy |
Apr 27th 2004, 4:49 PM
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Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,817 Joined: December 25th 2003 From: Pahked Neah Hahvid Yahd! Member No.: 3,065 Gender: Female |
Yahweh is God. It is just the name the Jews gave Him because they for some reason are not allowed to actually write out His name. I should know the reason why but I simply can't remember. But Yahweh is the same god as the Christian god as well. Ba'al is not THE semitic god and is not the same god as EL.
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| OdinisThor'sDad |
Apr 28th 2004, 4:00 AM
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ASSgards are pussies!  Group: Moderators Posts: 7,207 Joined: January 29th 2003 From: Asan, South Korea (that's the good one) Member No.: 490 Gender: Male |
Which is why I added the "Who the hell is Yahweh" line in the poll. Cause I didn't have a clue either. |
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| linda_lol |
May 1st 2004, 12:42 PM
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Chief Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 482 Joined: March 13th 2004 From: Playing jaffa with Teal'c! Member No.: 3,933 Gender: Female |
Yahweh is god? i thought it was some kind of cartoon person when i first saw the name.
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| durhamlass |
May 1st 2004, 2:07 PM
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Senior Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 371 Joined: December 9th 2003 From: Durham, England Member No.: 2,899 Gender: Female |
Same here  My second thought was a typing mistake.....There are some places that religion shouldn't go, and a TV series is one of them. It just wouldn't fit with the storyline that Goa'ulds are false gods, and introduce a God which was specific to only one group of people. There are plenty of religions which worship different gods for different things - they wouldn't be too happy with bringing something like this up. |
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| teryl_brat42 |
May 3rd 2004, 1:27 AM
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Captain Group: Members Posts: 965 Joined: September 16th 2003 From: New Mexico Member No.: 2,307 Gender: Female |
I think they have mentioned God in passing and that's great, but they should NOT try to portray God as a being in any way, shape, or form. The point is that there is one God as far as the stargate people are concerned and that's why they are trying to get rid of the Goa'uld...or false gods.
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| Mac.Fan |
May 3rd 2004, 7:09 AM
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Lieutenant Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,491 Joined: March 21st 2004 From: New Zealand Member No.: 4,500 Gender: Female |
oh. so that is what it means, why didn't you put the proper name on in the fist place. |
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| RookiesRevenge |
May 3rd 2004, 4:04 PM
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Lieutenant Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,490 Joined: June 23rd 2003 Member No.: 1,891 Gender: Male |
He is referring to what's commonly known as the tetragrammatton (sp), which is the only proper name for the God who inspired the Bible. This name is known by the 4 letter corresponding to yhwh "Yahweh" or as in anglicanized form jhvh or "Jehovah".
Some protestant Bibles use the form Jehovah, while others like the New Jerusalem Bible prefer Yahweh. The title LORD has been used to substitute the several thousand occurances of the divine name for many centuries, but that practice is not scriptual since Jesus himself came to sanctify his fathers name (and "God" is certainly not a proper name). This link has more information on the subject. Or you can look in the preface of almost any Bible translation to read their explanation of keeping the name in or replacing it. Many reference works also cover this subject. |
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| apogee NYC |
May 3rd 2004, 6:48 PM
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I think it is an important distinction between the real God (Yahweh, roughly translated "the One Who Is") and false gods. Teal'c is frequently pointing out that the Goauld are "false gods". To reject the Goauld as counterfeit Gods is in some ways to affirm the existence of the real God that the Goauld try to mimic with their pretenses of immortality, omniscience and omnipotence.
Of course, to those who say that they don't believe in the real God, any belief would be in a false god. I think that the writers of the series vary in their attitude on the issue of religion, but they seem to express their attitude in two vehicles, 1) through Daniel Jackson, who is a typical noncommttal academic that does not stand for anything philosophically except a general moral queasiness, and 2) through negative example of the pompously pseudo-religious Senator Kinsey. That is actually typical TV writing i suppose - hopefully nobody is spiritually harmed by it. I would prefer to have some characters express strong feelings about the real God, but that stuff is hard to write. Id like to see the SG-1 go to church, or something like that. After all, if Daniel can say the pagan Confessions of the Righteous Soul, albeit secularized, at Sharre's funeral, at least we could see some Christmas references. And no Santa Claus - he was a Goauld. |
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| Lithrasir |
May 3rd 2004, 8:49 PM
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Senior Airman  Group: Members Posts: 136 Joined: May 17th 2003 From: P3X-982 Member No.: 1,610 Gender: Female |
yup, and so would the easter bunny and the tooth fairy anyway At first i had no idea who yahwen was, but then i read some of the post and i think it woulod ruin the show. Mostly because of the "false god" stuff. |
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| linda_lol |
May 4th 2004, 8:03 PM
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Chief Master Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 482 Joined: March 13th 2004 From: Playing jaffa with Teal'c! Member No.: 3,933 Gender: Female |
Are you ppl saying that Goa'ulds give us Christmas presents and leave money under our pillows? Sorry, I just had to say that. Why don't people just say God? I mean, Yahweh sounds so confusing. If they ever used Yahweh as a Goa'uld, ppl would just get offended. I would! Said my part.
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| rob117 |
May 9th 2004, 12:08 PM
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Second Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 540 Joined: April 18th 2004 From: Albany, New York Member No.: 4,858 Gender: Male |
Still, there seems to be a lot of hipocracy about the false god stuff, as Daniel seems to be very adamant on not influencing the cultural evolution of others. Yet, SG-1 has been very open in saying stuff like "Apophis is a false god." The more appropriate thing to say would be "The being you worship who claims to be Apophis is not really Apophis, he is a parasite, inside a human body who took on the persona of the god your ancestors had already been worshipping."
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| X303kicksass |
May 10th 2004, 10:18 AM
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First Lieutenant  Group: Members Posts: 677 Joined: April 18th 2004 Member No.: 4,856 Gender: Male |
sounds like he's something off star wars lol
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| datag |
Jul 12th 2004, 2:32 PM
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Staff Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: March 20th 2004 From: Mokena, Illinios, USA Member No.: 4,480 Gender: Female |
uh what is a Yahweh is that some egyptian god or something if so he or she or it should be potrayed as a system lord if not duhhh!! I'm still confused
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| Kuwdora |
Jul 12th 2004, 8:39 PM
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Captain Group: Members Posts: 847 Joined: February 3rd 2003 From: Frozen Timbuckto, USA Member No.: 541 Gender: Female |
lol, kudos to Odin for adding that poll option in there ,because that's what I voted for. It seems reasonable that it probably would offend the main audience of Stargate, seeing as most are Christians of a sort. at least this isn't another 'who's hotter?' poll. |
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