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| wonderland |
 Dec 20th 2004, 7:32 PM
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Major General  Group: Donating Members Posts: 3,082 Joined: July 1st 2004 From: KY, United States Member No.: 5,411 Gender: Female  |
It wasn't Sha're who was trying to kill Daniel in "Forever in a Day", it was her snake, Amonet. Sha're, and maybe Amonet, was trying to communicate to Daniel that he had to save the child. In that scene at the gate, I took it that was Sha're in control and she allows herself to be taken by Apophis to save Daniel and the child, but that's just my opinion. |
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| Kaileron |
Dec 21st 2004, 8:44 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,869 Joined: April 4th 2003 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 1,284 Gender: Male |
I stand corrected. It's just always so confusing with the hosts and names  |
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| wonderland |
Dec 21st 2004, 9:05 AM
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Major General Group: Donating Members Posts: 3,082 Joined: July 1st 2004 From: KY, United States Member No.: 5,411 Gender: Female |
I had to watch "Forever in a Day" several times before I really understood what was going on. There are so many little subtle things you don't get the first time, or at least I didn't. |
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| BrandonTheGreat |
Jan 13th 2005, 5:12 PM
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Gotta like the realism of this episode, you know secrets, you get killed. Hence, it is called secrets.
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| cvvrede |
Feb 9th 2005, 12:13 PM
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Technical Sergeant  Group: Donating Members Posts: 241 Joined: January 27th 2005 From: Breda, The Netherlands Member No.: 7,767 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(wonderland @ Dec 21st 2004, 3:05 PM) I had to watch "Forever in a Day" several times before I really understood what was going on. There are so many little subtle things you don't get the first time, or at least I didn't.  I agree, I too had to watch it twice before I got what was going on. What I didn't really get from this episode though, was why when Sha're was in control for a moment(she didn't rat out Daniel) she didn't flee. Did she think she couldn't make it or did she think that if she'd run Daniel and co. would be found? |
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| ClampenShaften |
Feb 26th 2005, 11:33 AM
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Airman First Class  Group: Members Posts: 86 Joined: February 24th 2005 Member No.: 8,227 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(cvvrede @ Feb 9th 2005, 5:13 PM) I agree, I too had to watch it twice before I got what was going on. What I didn't really get from this episode though, was why when Sha're was in control for a moment(she didn't rat out Daniel) she didn't flee. Did she think she couldn't make it or did she think that if she'd run Daniel and co. would be found? i agree she is a goa'uld after all, scum of the unverse. i dont understand that either, maybe because sha're still had some influence over amunnette due to the birth minutes before. |
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| MasterBetty |
Sep 17th 2005, 8:51 AM
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Senior Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 356 Joined: September 12th 2005 From: South Australia Member No.: 10,132 Gender: Male |
best part was where oneil throws his knife in to snake boys hand. one thing i dont get is that his sheild was failing so he ringied himself out but there was enough tim eto kill him so why didnt Oneill do it
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| starryeyes |
Nov 4th 2005, 2:41 PM
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Staff Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 165 Joined: August 26th 2005 Member No.: 9,982 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(MasterBetty @ Sep 17th 2005, 9:51 AM) best part was where oneil throws his knife in to snake boys hand. one thing i dont get is that his sheild was failing so he ringied himself out but there was enough tim eto kill him so why didnt Oneill do it I think we've seen before where objects with less velocity can get by the shields like arrows and knives. O'Neill probably only had his gun left and the shield protects against that. Great episode BTW. I'm also surprised that Amonet didn't give away SG1's position at the end. As others have said, Sha're must have been in partial control. I wonder who was behind the murder, err accident of the reporter? I sure got the impression that O'Neill felt Hammond was in some small way responsible. This post has been edited by starryeyes: Nov 4th 2005, 2:42 PM |
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| Auntie Em! |
Nov 5th 2005, 8:33 PM
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Sipping on fine wine!  Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,918 Joined: March 22nd 2005 From: Northwestern Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,565 Gender: Female |
I doubt it. Gen. Hammond is not that kind of man. O'Neill knows that it was the shadow government that killed the reporter and when Gen. Hammond said what he said O'Neill shows his disgust for what happened.
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| starryeyes |
Nov 5th 2005, 10:53 PM
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Staff Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 165 Joined: August 26th 2005 Member No.: 9,982 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Nov 5th 2005, 9:33 PM) I doubt it. Gen. Hammond is not that kind of man. O'Neill knows that it was the shadow government that killed the reporter and when Gen. Hammond said what he said O'Neill shows his disgust for what happened. Okay, then I must have misinterpreted it. I'll have to watch that part of the episode again. |
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| xayeidemon |
Nov 5th 2005, 11:02 PM
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Always a cousin, never a boochi! Group: Moderators Posts: 4,997 Joined: October 18th 2003 From: The Red Hills of Georgia Member No.: 2,544 Gender: Female |
I think it was the NID. They're the only group that has knowledge of the stargate that I could see actually going through with an assassination plot.
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| starryeyes |
Nov 5th 2005, 11:09 PM
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Staff Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 165 Joined: August 26th 2005 Member No.: 9,982 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Nov 5th 2005, 9:33 PM) I doubt it. Gen. Hammond is not that kind of man. O'Neill knows that it was the shadow government that killed the reporter and when Gen. Hammond said what he said O'Neill shows his disgust for what happened. Let me clarify this. I think when Gen. Hammond found out that O'Neill was approached, he might have called someone about it not realizing of course the consequences. I got the feeling that O'Neill thought this as well. I might be wrong though so I'm going to watch this episode again. |
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| Auntie Em! |
Nov 7th 2005, 9:51 AM
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Sipping on fine wine! Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,918 Joined: March 22nd 2005 From: Northwestern Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,565 Gender: Female |
I agree with Xay. Starry of course Gen. Hammond called his superiors about a possible leak in the most guarded military facility in the USA. His bosses probably told the NID and they took care of business.
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| Sighfienerd |
May 15th 2007, 8:20 PM
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Beyond here there be dragons  Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,387 Joined: December 4th 2004 From: Beyond "here" Member No.: 7,150 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(starryeyes @ Nov 4th 2005, 3:41 PM) Great episode BTW. I'm also surprised that Amonet didn't give away SG1's position at the end. As others have said, Sha're must have been in partial control. I wonder who was behind the murder, err accident of the reporter? I sure got the impression that O'Neill felt Hammond was in some small way responsible. Sorry to bump this, but..... This is the first time I've seen this episode.  annnnd....these are the two thing that stood out. I don't think Sha're was in control. I think it was definitely Amonet showing gratitude or payment of a debt if you will, for Daniel having helped her so lovingly through childbirth even though he was aware of the bitter circumstances surrounding the fatherhood and the purpose of the child's birth. I don't think that kindness during such a vulnerable time is something a woman forgets so easily.Also, I was SURPRISED that the writers cast even a shadow of a doubt around Hammond's pristine character regarding the murder of the reporter. That would be so UNHammondlike, yet.... hmmmmm. |
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| wonderland |
May 15th 2007, 8:47 PM
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Major General Group: Donating Members Posts: 3,082 Joined: July 1st 2004 From: KY, United States Member No.: 5,411 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(Sighfienerd @ May 15th 2007, 9:20 PM) Sorry to bump this, but..... This is the first time I've seen this episode. annnnd....these are the two thing that stood out. I don't think Sha're was in control. I think it was definitely Amonet showing gratitude or payment of a debt if you will, for Daniel having helped her so lovingly through childbirth even though he was aware of the bitter circumstances surrounding the fatherhood and the purpose of the child's birth. I don't think that kindness during such a vulnerable time is something a woman forgets so easily.Also, I was SURPRISED that the writers cast even a shadow of a doubt around Hammond's pristine character regarding the murder of the reporter. That would be so UNHammondlike, yet.... hmmmmm. I can't believe you've never seen this episode! It could have been Amonet there at the gate. Having just given birth, her priorities could have shifted to the point that this child was now the single most important thing in her life. Given what Apophis has planned for the child and the protection she thought Daniel could offer, she might have decided letting Daniel live might prove beneficial to the child in the long run. And that storyline with the reporter was one that should have been pursued at a later date. |
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| IndyJan |
May 16th 2007, 4:39 AM
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Lieutenant General Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,356 Joined: July 17th 2004 Member No.: 5,622 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(Sighfienerd @ May 15th 2007, 8:20 PM) Also, I was SURPRISED that the writers cast even a shadow of a doubt around Hammond's pristine character regarding the murder of the reporter. That would be so UNHammondlike, yet.... hmmmmm. QUOTE(wonderland @ May 15th 2007, 8:47 PM) And that storyline with the reporter was one that should have been pursued at a later date. I didn't get the impression that Hammond had anything to do with it. What came across is that someone higher up might have had something to do with it, and Hammond was told to let it go. Be the good soldier, bite your tongue, etc. Which is what he more or less implied to Jack by trying to get him to believe it was an accident. Wonder, I agree, it should have been pursued at a later date. |
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