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post Jun 23rd 2004, 4:25 PM
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QUOTE (npfosho @ Jun 23 2004, 04:20 PM)
how was the iris crushed like a tin can? I understood it was unbreakable. It still looked cool when it was sucked in by th black hole.

Well, you see... the thing we call black hole is actually really really REALLY strong in its suckin' and grabbin' and pullin'... I don't think anything can withstand something like a black hole, not even an iris. Go figure. hypocrite.gif
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post Jul 1st 2004, 4:39 AM
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Well i cracked when carter said "kaputt" in one sentence.

Instantly i remembered this german sentence " Hilfe hilfe mein volkswagen ist kaputt"
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post Sep 2nd 2004, 1:59 AM
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Had quite a few qualms with the physics, but otherwise, this is still one of my top 10. Sam just seems to floorish when she's given the impossible on a non-existant time table! YAY for techies!!!
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post Sep 3rd 2004, 12:36 PM
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Definately up there with my favourites for season 2. I just love the whole episode! There's the science (possibly dodgy, but what the hell!), and the whole tension/emotion thing with Jack and that other guy (sorry, his name escapes me), plus Sam being frustrated at not being able to sort it out and then (of course!) coming up with a solution. Plus the SFX were great!
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post Sep 29th 2004, 11:02 AM
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I think someone asked why the wormhole had to jump from this end to another gate instead of connecting the black hole to another gate, ok, two reasons. First the wormhole was out going and secondly think Solitudes where there was a surge of power that caused the gate to overload thus jumping the wormhole to another gate. That's what they needed the bomb for.
I'm not sure if there is a way to calculate or determine whether the other SG team is infact still alive now, ask Stephen Hawking, or Carter...
I don't see how they couldn't have known previously about there being a black hole there, the distance it was from the planet at the time the SGC dialed into the planet would suggest that it was fairly close and would certanly have been visible when they sent the malp through before even sending any personel.
If you want to learn about the whole relativity thing I suggest reading A brief history of time by Stephen Hawking, it's pretty straight forward and the man certainly does have a sense of humour.
Ok, enough of the science talk. It was good to learn a little about O'Neill's past, helps us to better understand his character, of course he can't forgive Cromwell, he can't even forgive himself. Carter explaining stuff with food LoL! If time was slowing down inside the mountain, what would have happened if another team off world wanted to dial home when earth was connected to the black hole? Does that make sense?
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post Oct 13th 2004, 1:07 PM
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QUOTE (magnavox @ Sep 29th 2004, 11:02 AM)
If time was slowing down inside the mountain, what would have happened if another team off world wanted to dial home when earth was connected to the black hole? Does that make sense?

Being a science type I will give this a try...

Nothing would happen. If the Stargate is engaged then another gate would not be able to establish a connection.

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post Oct 14th 2004, 3:02 PM
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QUOTE (mr_d8a @ Oct 13th 2004, 1:07 PM)
Being a science type I will give this a try...

Nothing would happen. If the Stargate is engaged then another gate would not be able to establish a connection.

James

Ok, I should have worded that better, what I ment was If say, earth had a black hole near it like that planet did, would we then be able to recieve a connection from another gate and have that team be able to come home safely cause they have to open the iris on this end and if time is slower here could there be enough of a delay for them to go splat?
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post Oct 15th 2004, 4:20 AM
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QUOTE (magnavox @ Oct 14th 2004, 10:02 PM)
Ok, I should have worded that better, what I ment was If say, earth had a black hole near it like that planet did, would we then be able to recieve a connection from another gate and have that team be able to come home safely cause they have to open the iris on this end and if time is slower here could there be enough of a delay for them to go splat?

I think yes, it should be possible to dial the Gate, but maybe it wouldn't work because of the safety protocols.
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post Oct 15th 2004, 9:22 PM
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But would the iris open quick enough to let them through if time is slower on this end? It might take longer for the iris to open unless time in the wormhole slows down the closer it is to earth, although that brings up the question as to whether the dimention in which the wormhole exists is affected by this dimentions laws of time & space?
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post Dec 20th 2004, 5:02 PM
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An 8. Even if thinking about it can give me an headache like Hammond and O'niell.
It was a very interesting episode but vague as well. For instance, I still don't understand how Daniel and his team got of that planet. Ok, I can buy this stuff that the wormhole on Earth got shut down by that blast. That means the wormhole with the blackhole-planet was lost. How on Earth did they dial again to that planet, the black hole still existed so establishing a wormhole with the beta-gate shouldnt have worked now would it blink.gif Im so confused Confuzzled.gif
A minor point was that other commando dude. Like a wanabee-O'Niell. Totally unnecesary. The producers should have left that nobody out of the entire episode. It didnt contribute to anything special but knowing that Jack spent four months in an Iraqi prison. Who cares, about such trivial nonsense information.
That is the only reason I dont give it a 9 sleep.gif
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post Dec 24th 2004, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE
It was a very interesting episode but vague as well. For instance, I still don't understand how Daniel and his team got of that planet.


Daniel and the other SG unit wasn't ON the black hole planet. He was with another team doing a dig. The Sg team on the black hole planet was led by a guy named Henry Boyd, and it was his first mission.

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A minor point was that other commando dude. Like a wanabee-O'Niell. Totally unnecesary. The producers should have left that nobody out of the entire episode. It didnt contribute to anything special but knowing that Jack spent four months in an Iraqi prison. Who cares, about such trivial nonsense information.
That is the only reason I dont give it a 9 -_-sion for his new team.


Cromwell was a part of the overall theme of 'no one gets left behind' that O'Neill demonstrated early in the episode. When Boyd's team was in trouble, O'Neill was the first one to volunteer SG-1 for the rescue. Cromwell was a great example from O'Neill's past about when O'Neill had been the one left behind in a 'no hope of rescue' scenario. It was also a great tie-in at the end that Cromwell was trying to get some measure of forgiveness for what had happened between the two of them, especially when he was trying to save O'Neill from being pulled into the wormhole/blackhole, yet ulimately lost his own life in trying to make up for a past mistake.


This is my favorite episode - ever...dodgy physics be damned wink.gif
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post Jan 13th 2005, 5:23 PM
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This episode here is rather confusing, by short distances, time can be longer? I don't really understand black hole theory to begin with. But distances determine how long time moves.
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post Feb 9th 2005, 1:06 PM
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QUOTE(Pearce1340 @ Jan 30th 2003, 5:11 PM)
This is cool, I wonder what would really happen being that close to a black whole, I feel sorry for the men traped on the planet, although for them it wont seem long, but they will be stuck there forever, with time getting slower and slower. poor them.
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Well eventually they will be sucked up by the dark hole, right. And for them it would only seem like a couple of seconds.

I liked this episode because of the things you get to know about what O'Neill did before he joined the SGC. And we now know where his "We don't leave our people behind"attitude comes from.
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post Feb 28th 2005, 8:49 AM
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QUOTE(cvvrede @ Feb 9th 2005, 6:06 PM)
Well eventually they will be sucked up by the dark hole, right. And for them it would only seem like a couple of seconds.

I liked this episode because of the things you get to know about what O'Neill did before he joined the SGC. And we now know where his "We don't leave our people behind"attitude comes from.
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yeah i agree. it is quite a good episode in that aspect. O'Neill's history does have an impact in this episode.

I really enjoyed this episode as it introduced real physical theories into the concept behind the stargate technology.

great episode.
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post Jun 17th 2005, 1:30 AM
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Why didn't SG1 smash out all of the windows on the control room before sending Colonel O'Neill and that other guy down to detonate the bomb?

I mean, they should of known that the structural integrity of the windows were poor considering that one had already broken; and the larger gravitational force obviously would have resulted in shards of glass having massive momentum (thus becomming deadly). It would be a safety hazard to send men into a situation where they could become bombarded by deadly shrapnel without warning. I think Carter was too busy focusing her giant brain on donuts this episode.
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post Jun 18th 2005, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(Apis @ Jun 17th 2005, 1:30 AM)
Why didn't SG1 smash out all of the windows on the control room before sending Colonel O'Neill and that other guy down to detonate the bomb?

At the very least, it's bulletproof glass. How would you have them break it?
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post Mar 2nd 2006, 4:45 AM
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this is one of my top 5 favorite episodes...i mean it dosent get any better than this...stargate at its finest....i wish the dvd contained info on how they made this episode....oh well....im glad we got to know a little about jacks past...sucked when his friend died at the end....music in this episode was great....good job Joel Goldsmith....i loved how carter used a donut to demonstrate how the star gate works.....at the end of the show jack should have said " i deserve two weeks pay" but it was fine.....even if we failed to close the wormhole im sure the tokra would have eventually come to earth in a cargo ship and towed the gate into space...but who knows.....oh and this is the first episode where we see major davis
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post Mar 6th 2006, 1:40 AM
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I like this ep. Also because it tells us more about O?neill?s history. It is also very important to several future ep.
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Lmao great episode at the beginning it thought my TV and seriously been screwed up. I know i know D.U.M
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I just watched this ep on Scifi, and at the end Carter names the planet that the gate successully jumped to. Should the next closest gate always be Abidos?
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post Jan 23rd 2008, 12:58 AM
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QUOTE(JTMAG1 @ Jan 22nd 2008, 10:32 PM) *

I just watched this ep on Scifi, and at the end Carter names the planet that the gate successully jumped to. Should the next closest gate always be Abidos?

I think it was the closest gate between Earth and the involved planet... like it would have jumped to a planet close to the other one or in the line of sight or something... I dunno...
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QUOTE(Revan @ Jan 23rd 2008, 12:58 AM) *

I think it was the closest gate between Earth and the involved planet... like it would have jumped to a planet close to the other one or in the line of sight or something... I dunno...

Oh Yes, you're right. They got sent to the Antartica gate when they were inbound to Earth, and since they were outbond to where ever they were.... Thanks.
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I'm just now getting caught up with the show on Hulu. I think this was the last episode I'd seen when it was in its first run on Showtime. Somehow I missed an episode or two, and just couldn't get back in the groove, so I stopped watching after that.

But this was a great episode! I loved how they covered the time dilation effect on the GDO signal, and the Redshifting of the image from the MALP.

Everybody's already covered pretty much all the cool bits, but I really loved that part where Carter gives O'Neill some technical information, and Cromwell turns to see Jack nod knowingly: "Don't even pretend you understood that."
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