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| Arcady |
 Jan 11th 2003, 3:51 AM
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Base Commander  Group: Admin Posts: 4,951 Joined: November 26th 2002 From: Dallas, Texas USA Member No.: 1 Gender: Male  |
Season 3, Episode 18 - Shades of Grey
Original Air Date: February 11, 2000 SG-1 travels to Tollana to negotiate a trade. O'Neill becomes annoyed when the Tollans refuse to cooperate due to their fear that any weaponry given to Earth would likely be used on itself than against the Goa'uld. In an act that shocks the rest of his team, O'Neill steals a Tollan device as they are departing back to Earth. |
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| ussshorty |
Jan 12th 2003, 5:51 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
ok i loved this episodes its one of my faves i didnt get it at first but then when i started to notice what was going on i got the plot but this episode had a differant twist to all the other episodes.
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| KeyWest |
Feb 1st 2003, 1:20 PM
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I found this episode to be predictable. It was clear at the beginning that Jack was faking his attitude, etc. and that he was trying to uncover bad stuff going on by acting the bad guy. I got a great laugh at the end, though, when Daniel Jackson told Jack that he lost at pulling straws. Teal'c always has great expression and body language that doesn't require him to speak much. He's great.
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| ussshorty |
Feb 1st 2003, 5:29 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
it wasnt obvious when he stole the device but it was getting easier to figure outwhen he went in to a alliance with maybourne .
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| Raxor |
Feb 1st 2003, 5:32 PM
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... Group: Moderators Posts: 4,361 Joined: December 26th 2002 From: England, Uk Member No.: 174 Gender: Male |
it was only when i saw the asguard, that a realised that he was working undercover.
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| ussshorty |
Feb 1st 2003, 5:42 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
yeah thats when i really started to get the picture more clearly |
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| KeyWest |
Feb 1st 2003, 6:26 PM
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Come on, guys! It was obvious he was acting right before he was forced to retire. His behavior and statements he was making were totally out-of-line with all of his prior behavior/beliefs, etc. And then it was brutally obvious when he was so rude to Daniel Jackson at his house. That definitely wasn't the real Jack speaking#-he was acting.
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| ussshorty |
Feb 4th 2003, 11:36 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
excuse me he could of been having an off day my grandad has those alot and hes normally a laugh and sarcastic.
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| Stargate SG-1 Bott |
Feb 11th 2003, 4:53 PM
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Staff Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 188 Joined: January 9th 2003 From: Midlands, UK Member No.: 288 Gender: Male |
ye i liked this episode alot aswell,
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| ussshorty |
Feb 13th 2003, 1:00 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
yeah thats is wat its all about the episode not the charcters off days or how obvious it was ect........
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| AOT |
Feb 21st 2003, 4:03 AM
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Captain  Group: Members Posts: 812 Joined: February 4th 2003 Member No.: 543 |
Really? Honestly? And you could tell what the ending might bring? I think many of us realised something was up, but weren't sure what. |
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| ussshorty |
Mar 9th 2003, 5:33 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
yeah i agree with AOT for once in my lifetime cause i mean you couldnt actually say this was definately going to happen at the end. |
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| Major Gmed |
Mar 9th 2003, 5:37 AM
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Major  Group: Members Posts: 1,243 Joined: March 5th 2003 From: Ayrshire, Scotland Member No.: 979 Gender: Female |
Yeah I think most people had an idea what was going to happen, but since this is Stargate it could have easily surprised us with a totally different ending.
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| ussshorty |
Mar 9th 2003, 5:43 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
yeah, see my point excactly dont under estimate stargate its a show of many surprises. some better t han others.
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| PAL |
Mar 9th 2003, 11:07 AM
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Lieutenant Colonel  Group: Members Posts: 1,259 Joined: January 16th 2003 From: Canada Member No.: 368 Gender: Male |
when we see the Asguard notice how his eyes are all messed up? he looks like he is on narcautics. His one eye closes funny.
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| Major Gmed |
Mar 9th 2003, 3:13 PM
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Major Group: Members Posts: 1,243 Joined: March 5th 2003 From: Ayrshire, Scotland Member No.: 979 Gender: Female |
What can you expect, his genetic material is degrading. I'm surprised that is the only problem we see.
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| ussshorty |
Mar 12th 2003, 1:36 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
maybe he just forgot to put his contact lenses in?
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| Nicci |
Mar 22nd 2003, 6:31 AM
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Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 344 Joined: March 21st 2003 From: A galaxy far, far away. Member No.: 1,165 Gender: Female |
This was my favorite episode of all time until I saw Abyss (probably because Daniel was in it) and yes, I reolised for the outset that Jack was up to something but had no idea exactly what until the Asgard beamed down.
I like it when characters start acting out of character because it tests your perceptions of that person. However saying all that - Jack IS capable of going a bit loopy - look what he's been through? The Jack O'Neill portrayed by Kurt Russell in the film was a hardassed suicidal maniac, he mellowed over the years but he still carries the dark side stuff that made him an effective Special Ops Colonel. And as mentioned above, this is STARGATE - anything can happen (and probably will!) |
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| Aceuss |
Mar 26th 2003, 12:22 PM
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Staff Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: March 25th 2003 Member No.: 1,198 Gender: Male |
In my humble opinion, I don't think that this episode started to get predictable until Jack accepted Maybourne's offer to join his team. And even then it wasn't really predictable as much as we bagan to realize that there's something going on.
I was bothered though by the way Jack treated Teal'c. I know that it was mentioned at the end that the Asgards requested only Jack is to be let in on the plan, however I doubt that anyone believes that Teal'c rebeled against Apophis to help humans steal technologies from other civilizations. I don't know about you guys, but I share Jack's hatred of the Tollans. They have always been arrogant even when SG-1 saved their tollan behinds off their original planet in series 1. And not to mention when they saved their whole civilization from being slaughtered and enslaved by the Goa'ulds, yet they still have the nerve to threaten to severe ties with Earth just because some group stole some equipment from them. I hate them. |
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| ArisBoch |
 Mar 28th 2003, 3:11 PM
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Second Lieutenant  Group: Members Posts: 533 Joined: March 21st 2003 From: current reigning king of Gondor Member No.: 1,162 |
this wuz the 1st ep i ever watched, and i've never stopped liking it. i tell my family when we see it on TV that this is why they watch 7 or 8 eps a wk. they didn't answer, but i don't think it thrilled them. i liked the whole jack turning from sg1 thing, cuz i think its something he might actually do under certain circumstances. not that he'd ever NOT help his team, but i could see his "darker side" popping up more than it does in the series. and i liked daniel's line at the end: "we drew straws. i lost." lol
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| ussshorty |
Mar 29th 2003, 5:54 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
o'neill:id rather be a thief and alive
than honest and dead question when jack said the womn reminded him of someone which is sam i know shes intelligent and all that but even with her intelligence she didnt remind me of sam,. |
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| ArisBoch |
Mar 29th 2003, 7:57 AM
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Second Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 533 Joined: March 21st 2003 From: current reigning king of Gondor Member No.: 1,162 |
i thought she wuz kinda like sam- smart and efficient, following orders but using her brain too. i think the only reason she seemed so un-sam like is b/c there wuz no chemistry between her and oneill, so it seemed a little weird.
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| ussshorty |
Apr 2nd 2003, 11:22 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
no thats not it.
to me even her intelligence is nuttin lijke sam. and to be honest i wreckon that womn should of kept trying for a place in the sgc instead of going to maybournes side cummon how pathetic and impatient can you get. |
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| Firefly |
Jun 22nd 2003, 1:37 PM
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First Lieutenant  Group: Members Posts: 746 Joined: April 6th 2003 From: Maine Member No.: 1,304 Gender: Female |
I didn't think she was anything like Sam either. Especially when she was carrying around the gun...she didn't make a believable soldier the way Amanda Tapping does.
And I thought Jack was an ass to all of SG-1, but he only apologized to Daniel. I was like "Okay, now Carter since you were a total dick to her!" What was up with the line "I haven't been acting myself since I met you!" |
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