 If Earth Had "Federation" Technology, Star Trek Goodies In A Stargate Universe |
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| lordyu |
 May 21st 2003, 9:48 PM
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Staff Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 182 Joined: February 13th 2003 Member No.: 652  |
the 500 megatons I got it from episode 201 THE SERPENT'S LAIR. that is what each nuke was rated at when it hit the shields of apophis ship. the only effect that it had on the ship was a little rumble. the 12 megatons was what Star Trek site rated it at. thats the info that they got from movie, game, book etc..... so you can argue with that. 50,208 terajoule = 12 megatons. |
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| weasel |
May 22nd 2003, 6:36 AM
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Captain  Group: Members Posts: 823 Joined: February 28th 2003 From: Reading, England Member No.: 904 Gender: Male |
If you want to get caught up in megatons- watch the 1st quantum mirror episode "there but for the grace of God", Carter says "if they fire, the chances are we won't even feel it, the blasts on the east coast were over_______" sorry, can't remember the figure.
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| ArisBoch |
 May 22nd 2003, 6:56 AM
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Second Lieutenant  Group: Members Posts: 533 Joined: March 21st 2003 From: current reigning king of Gondor Member No.: 1,162 |
they wouldn't do anything-goauld ships rule!!!
sorry, had to get caught up in my own enthusiasm here for a sec. but really, the photon torpedos and lasers and whatever else they want to come up w/ would pretty much just splash off the shields of the goauld ships. but it'd make an interesting light display.  |
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| Bril |
May 22nd 2003, 1:12 PM
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Airman  Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: January 10th 2003 Member No.: 297 |
So if gao'uld shields can absord 500 megatons without to much trouble, I wonder how they would hold up against the 10 million terraWatts that site has the Borg Tactical Cubes rated at (should come out to about 2.3k megatons). So I guess while Federation weaponary may not stand up to the Gao'uld, I am betting the Borg would rip them to shreds. Which is funny because we seem to do "ok" against the Borg.
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| Hathor the Queen |
May 22nd 2003, 1:20 PM
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Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 325 Joined: April 26th 2003 From: Lincoln, England. Member No.: 1,454 Gender: Female |
I doubt we would ever find a way to get through Goa'uld shields with federation tech. now that every one has said so
We should stick to simple Naqahdah bombs and nukes |
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| Krogoth666 |
May 22nd 2003, 1:50 PM
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Airman First Class  Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: May 22nd 2003 From: Guelph, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 1,641 Gender: Male |
Comparing Federation Technology to Gould technology would be extremely difficult. First of all, you CANNOT measure shield and beam strength in megatones. Kilotons, Megatons, and Gigatones are measures of explosive yield, which only apply to missiles and torpedos. Everything has to be converted into kinetic energy; shields, phasers, torpedos, and what-not. Second, we need to understand EXACTLY how these weapons and other technology work on the subatomic level. Just because starship A's missile makes a bigger boom than Starship B's missiles, doesnt necessarially mean ship B is SOL. Starship B's missiles may work in a way which exploits certain weaknesses of Ship A's shields and armor. Just like in that episode of Voyager (Year of Hell) where Voyager fought the Krenim. Voyager's photon torpedos were much stronger than Krenim temporal torpedos. However, the Krenim Temporal Torpedos were in a state of temporal flux which completly bypassed Voyager's shields, doing an ASS load of damage. On top of that, we will have the means to have a good basis of comparison. Now unless you have a phd's in theoretical physics and quantum mechanics, and all of that lovely stuff that gives me migranes, then you're probably not quallified to make a solid comparison of the technologies. Third, it was never mentioned how exactly Zats and Staff weapons work, so its kinda hard to compare somthing you know nothing about. Comparing soley on visual observations is insufficient.
However, using only visual observations, Id say that federation technology would really help earth in their fight against the Gould. Forget about photon and quantum torpedos. They should use transphasic torpedoes, brought back by Voyager. Thost things are fuckin powerful!! They destroyed an entire borg cube in only one shot!! Imagine what a barrage of those torpedoes would do to a Gould ship!! |
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| Behenna |
May 22nd 2003, 6:20 PM
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Major  Group: Members Posts: 1,084 Joined: March 18th 2003 From: Near Oxford in a little village Member No.: 1,143 Gender: Male |
and what about the armor as well! could take a hell of a lot of damage that the borg delt out! and they was only down by 2% untill they all started 2 attack 1 point.
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| OdinisThor'sDad |
May 23rd 2003, 5:12 AM
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ASSgards are pussies!  Group: Moderators Posts: 7,207 Joined: January 29th 2003 From: Asan, South Korea (that's the good one) Member No.: 490 Gender: Male |
Plus we know very little about Goauld or SG tech.
Federation tech everyone knows about. Hell Lt Torrace could modify the deflector to emit a kill Goauld beam in the sub-space spectra and it would be all over. Man Voyager could do anything with it's deflector dish....... SG ships don't have deflector dishes so they would be at a huge disadvantage.....  |
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| Behenna |
May 23rd 2003, 6:41 PM
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Major Group: Members Posts: 1,084 Joined: March 18th 2003 From: Near Oxford in a little village Member No.: 1,143 Gender: Male |
lol, mostly the defletor dish was 2 prevent small particals from penatraing the hull when they was at warp! cuz i think i heared in 1 ep where the defletor was down that if they went 2 warp small partials from dust or something would penatrae the hull with a hole the size of ur fist! surly the goauld have something that acts like this!(clearly its not as good as the federation ones, lol), or just imagine they jump 2 hyperspace and a few sectors away the ships there as debry! hummmmm that a sure good away 2 start an attack, lol
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| ColonelJackO'NeillRocks |
May 23rd 2003, 6:44 PM
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Brigadier General  Group: Members Posts: 2,098 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: New York Member No.: 1,333 Gender: Male |
Man, I'm surprised that Buddha hasn't chimed in on this one yet. Must be holding out for one big "quantium torpedo" sized post!!
 I kill me.It wouldn't make a difference.....Anubus' mothership would cut the Enterprise-E to RIBBONS!!! And that's a Sovereign class ship, the best of the fleet! Can't wait to see the Titan....maybe that will make a dent into Anubis' hull. riker at the helm...looks like a good series to come....can't wait. |
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| Behenna |
May 23rd 2003, 7:02 PM
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Major Group: Members Posts: 1,084 Joined: March 18th 2003 From: Near Oxford in a little village Member No.: 1,143 Gender: Male |
lol, what would happen is the sicmitar went up against anubis ship! now that was a masive ship and its not very often u see a fed ship ramming someone elses ship!, yer the script was poor but that was still one kick arse ship!
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| ColonelJackO'NeillRocks |
May 24th 2003, 12:11 PM
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Brigadier General Group: Members Posts: 2,098 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: New York Member No.: 1,333 Gender: Male |
Holy crap, that would be a fight! The script was so-so, the Scimitar and the Argo (dune buggy scene) made that movie!!! Worse scene: Data singing...so retarded...so unnecessary...so Star Trek. |
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| jimmyk421 |
May 24th 2003, 1:06 PM
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Senior Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 395 Joined: April 24th 2003 From: EARTH Member No.: 1,440 |
first of all star trek is in the future so trek tech will not work with stargate. now explain 1 thing to me sg1 and star trek are so different but most ppl i meet online that like sg1 also like trek in fact my neighbor have these arguments he claims sg1 is rubbish compared to tng well needless to say after last tng sucks no sg1 suck argument we dont talk much anymore are most trekkies this way
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| Behenna |
May 24th 2003, 4:10 PM
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Major Group: Members Posts: 1,084 Joined: March 18th 2003 From: Near Oxford in a little village Member No.: 1,143 Gender: Male |
nope cuz i ant and i know someone that ant i appecate both shows as equal.
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| mark6t9clay |
May 24th 2003, 6:10 PM
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Senior Airman  Group: Members Posts: 130 Joined: May 22nd 2003 From: Near Birmingham, England Member No.: 1,644 Gender: Male |
Maybe the SGC should change their Prometheus to the Federation ship Prometheus (from Voyagers' season 4 episode 'Message In A Bottle')
At least with that ship they could have used the regenerative shielding, ablative hull armour and the multi - vector assault mode and then maybe even Anubis' ship could get a pounding...... serves him right for wiping out Abydos. Just imagine.... USS Prometheus....... Kirk in command and Jack as first officer... or should it be Jack in command?  Jack: Lucy, I'm home Teal'c: I am not Lucy Jack: I know. Just open the door The Broca Divide |
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| Behenna |
May 24th 2003, 6:16 PM
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Major Group: Members Posts: 1,084 Joined: March 18th 2003 From: Near Oxford in a little village Member No.: 1,143 Gender: Male |
that was a good ep, and i don't know if its me or does anyone notice a lot of smilaritys between "essage in a Bottle" and the first time ep with the X-303! first both ships where highjacked, and there was people on who stopped the highjacking, there r more i know but i can't remember them
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| louspiel |
 May 24th 2003, 11:54 PM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: May 11th 2003 From: Kleptocracy of San Francisco Member No.: 1,565 Gender: Male |
A little off-topic, but let us also consider fleet organization and command. In many of the episodes I've seen so-far, the space battles seem to be very un-organized melees. Now suppos the Earth and it allies had federation technology and that (getting a commander from a series of sci-fi books), Honor Harrington was in command!  |
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| Virus0486 |
May 25th 2003, 8:56 AM
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Staff Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: February 16th 2003 From: Miami, Florida U.S.A!!! Member No.: 695 Gender: Male |
No, staff weapons and zats are a better replacement to the phasers
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| Vega |
May 25th 2003, 1:01 PM
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Staff Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 178 Joined: February 21st 2003 Member No.: 803 Gender: Not Telling |
-Now suppos the Earth and it allies had federation technology and that (getting a commander from a series of sci-fi books), Honor Harrington was in command!-
Honor Harrington kicks ass! But she's no Jack! I mean, Sam vs Honor...my money's on Sam! |
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| Blazingcomet |
Jun 7th 2003, 8:52 PM
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Technical Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 246 Joined: June 7th 2003 From: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada Member No.: 1,746 |
I agree.
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