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> 419 - The Kindred (Part Two)
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Wisdonplusone
post Mar 8th 2008, 8:08 PM
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QUOTE(Revan @ Mar 4th 2008, 8:04 PM) *

What does Teyla finding her people held prisoner by a maniac to use as lab rats have to do with the Nazis? The Nazis were for the supreme pure race and all that garbage, and that it was wrong to pollute the gene pool, but I don't think they did any genetic manipulation... Unless I missed that part of history class.

What Ronon and Beckett said when?

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Her people held as lab rats? Torture? Yeah, think Nazis, they also did their own form of genetic manipulation in having women carrying babies from "pure" stock. Not as sophisticated as Michael but effective never the less.

When Beckett was saying goodby to everyone, they (Rhonin and Beckett) embraced briefly and seemed to talk, the only goodby we were't able to hear.
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post Mar 8th 2008, 8:40 PM
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QUOTE(Wisdonplusone @ Mar 8th 2008, 8:08 PM) *

Her people held as lab rats? Torture? Yeah, think Nazis, they also did their own form of genetic manipulation in having women carrying babies from "pure" stock. Not as sophisticated as Michael but effective never the less.

When Beckett was saying goodby to everyone, they (Rhonin and Beckett) embraced briefly and seemed to talk, the only goodby we were't able to hear.

I am in absolutely in no way defending the Nazis, but I've gotta say, torture and horrible forced labor and unjust imprisonment are not exclusive to that regime.

The Russians killed a hell of a lot more people (the Slavs, I believe) than the Nazis killed Jews.

I don't recall that. *shrug*
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QUOTE(Revan @ Mar 8th 2008, 8:40 PM) *

I am in absolutely in no way defending the Nazis, but I've gotta say, torture and horrible forced labor and unjust imprisonment are not exclusive to that regime.

The Russians killed a hell of a lot more people (the Slavs, I believe) than the Nazis killed Jews.

I don't recall that. *shrug*


No the Nazis weren't the first, last, or only ones to utilize torture but it was the first thing that came to my mind while I was watching it, probably because of Michael's appearance (blond hair), his uniform, the scene set-up, Hollings shaved head, torture, etc., I still feel that this is the image they were trying to promote. I refuse to debate which regime is more morally degenerate.

You may not remember the goodby, doesn't mean it didn't happen...
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QUOTE(Wisdonplusone @ Mar 8th 2008, 9:04 PM) *

No the Nazis weren't the first, last, or only ones to utilize torture but it was the first thing that came to my mind while I was watching it, probably because of Michael's appearance (blond hair), his uniform, the scene set-up, Hollings shaved head, torture, etc., I still feel that this is the image they were trying to promote. I refuse to debate which regime is more morally degenerate.

You may not remember the goodby, doesn't mean it didn't happen...

My bad. You are right. I would say that is the sort of message they were sending. I do think TPTB were going for the whole "master race" thing with superiority at any cost. I don't think that is a debate that could be had, or that would have any constructive or positive result, beyond raising awareness.

No I mean I remember the farewell, just not the hushed secretive part. smile.gif
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post Mar 9th 2008, 3:14 AM
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QUOTE(Wisdonplusone @ Mar 9th 2008, 2:04 AM) *
Hollings shaved head

That was probably only because he was playing Todd all the damn time biggrin.gif I wouldn't link that to the Nazi's though, given the other characters seemed to have longer hair I think it may have just been how he was before he got kidnapped. Who knows.

There are certain links to the Nazi's though I guess, but you will find links with the Nazis to most bad guy schemes on the show if you look deep enough.
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post Mar 9th 2008, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(Revan @ Mar 9th 2008, 1:40 AM) *

I am in absolutely in no way defending the Nazis, but I've gotta say, torture and horrible forced labor and unjust imprisonment are not exclusive to that regime.

your quite right there revan.even the russians weren't the first.the first people too come up with the concept for a concentration camp (that is known about anyway) is the British! in south africa during the boar war.
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your quite right there revan.even the russians weren't the first.the first people too come up with the concept for a concentration camp (that is known about anyway) is the British! in south africa during the boar war.

lol, the British did not invent concentration camps. Things like that have been going on for thousands of years.
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lol, the British did not invent concentration camps. Things like that have been going on for thousands of years.

Concentration camps have existed since semi-sentient bipedal organisms formed groups. Course, back then, they would only be held until they were eaten for nourishment to combat the cold winters. sick.gif
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Ok.. it's been a long while since i saw this episode, and i'm in need of some assistance.

Does anyone know where i can find a transcript of this episode... specifically the DNA strand thing that Keller showed as proof that Carson was a clone....please?

I've gone looking aobut the SG sites i know of for transcripts but i can only find SG-1 scripts.

Thanks in advance for any help cool.gif
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post Apr 29th 2008, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(dr lee @ Apr 29th 2008, 7:41 PM) *

Ok.. it's been a long while since i saw this episode, and i'm in need of some assistance.

Does anyone know where i can find a transcript of this episode... specifically the DNA strand thing that Keller showed as proof that Carson was a clone....please?

I've gone looking aobut the SG sites i know of for transcripts but i can only find SG-1 scripts.

Thanks in advance for any help cool.gif


Well, Doc Lee, you always seem to find spoilers of episodes, so I am surprised you would be in trouble for a transcript. I'm glad to help. I found a transcript on ye olde Gateworld, and I provide you with this link in the hopes that you will find what you need:

Gateworld Transcript by Callie Sullivan

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