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> Episode 4.20: The Last Man, SPOILERS for season 4 & 5.
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post Dec 11th 2007, 1:05 AM
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Curtesy of gateworld.net, information about the season four finale ...

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Season Five information, also curtesy of gateworld.net ...

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post Dec 11th 2007, 4:27 PM
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An Atlantis exposed to sandstorms and an older McKay sounds pretty interesting but I hope it isn't related to time travel.
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post Dec 11th 2007, 7:32 PM
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QUOTE(Dafmeister @ Dec 11th 2007, 4:27 PM) *

An Atlantis exposed to sandstorms and an older McKay sounds pretty interesting but I hope it isn't related to time travel.


It may sound interesting, but I don't hold my breath when JM is concerned, especially when it comes to the fans and giving them something interesting.
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post Dec 12th 2007, 6:49 AM
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I remember seeing Atlantis in sand... I don't know if it was online or in the commercial for The Seer.
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post Dec 12th 2007, 3:45 PM
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There is a concept picture of an Atlantis cityship in sand floating around the place, i'm guessing thats what you saw Rev.

Interestingly they have
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down as appearing in this one.

The big point of interest is...

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Also,
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post Dec 17th 2007, 7:25 AM
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wow i love spoilers anymore please also it sounds really cool to have asgard tech like that on a new earth ship it would've be stupid not to have at least some asgard tech.
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RepliWier plot anyone?

Trap Sheppard off world and make him think he's still free and clear, stick him in a mind bendy VR, make him think he's off in the future, in the middle of some wierd mystery, and gain intel from his reactions and responses?

Or maybe find some ancient tech that will "help" Sheppard, then the RepliWier gang goes off and nabs it themselves?

Or do you think this is a genuine time travel episode? (Has SGA had a time travel episode yet?)
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post Feb 3rd 2008, 4:23 AM
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QUOTE(Joda @ Feb 3rd 2008, 1:18 AM) *

RepliWier plot anyone?

Trap Sheppard off world and make him think he's still free and clear, stick him in a mind bendy VR, make him think he's off in the future, in the middle of some wierd mystery, and gain intel from his reactions and responses?

Or maybe find some ancient tech that will "help" Sheppard, then the RepliWier gang goes off and nabs it themselves?

Or do you think this is a genuine time travel episode? (Has SGA had a time travel episode yet?)

Actually I don't think we see RepliWeir again this season... Least I haven't heard anything if we do.

No, I am pretty sure Sheppard gets tossed like 1000 years in the future or something and finds a mess...
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post Feb 3rd 2008, 5:05 AM
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Mckay lives to be 1000?

Whoa... betcha he really does know everything by that point... or he's Ascended... whoa... that'd be nifty... we do know he can do it, it'd be cool to see that it'll happen I suppose.

And I thought I did hear we'd see Weir again this year, but I could have made that up with my mind.
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post Feb 3rd 2008, 4:46 PM
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Tori has had her four episode slot in season4, she won't appear again and since she isn't down for eason 5 yet, her arc seems to be over before it even began.
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post Feb 3rd 2008, 4:48 PM
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QUOTE(Joda @ Feb 3rd 2008, 5:05 AM) *

Mckay lives to be 1000?

Whoa... betcha he really does know everything by that point... or he's Ascended... whoa... that'd be nifty... we do know he can do it, it'd be cool to see that it'll happen I suppose.

And I thought I did hear we'd see Weir again this year, but I could have made that up with my mind.

McKay leaves a hologram detailing what happened after Sheppard disappeared.
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QUOTE(Dafmeister @ Feb 3rd 2008, 4:46 PM) *

Tori has had her four episode slot in season4, she won't appear again and since she isn't down for eason 5 yet, her arc seems to be over before it even began.


Well that sure sucks.

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McKay leaves a hologram detailing what happened after Sheppard disappeared.


Hmm... nifty...? huh.gif

I'm intrigued.
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post Feb 4th 2008, 1:55 PM
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QUOTE(Joda @ Feb 4th 2008, 1:15 AM) *
Well that sure sucks.
Agreed. After the brief scene at the end of episode 11, I was looking forward to the Weir and Asuran arc which would have followed. I hope TPTB do decide to cast her in some way.
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post Feb 4th 2008, 9:28 PM
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QUOTE(Joda @ Feb 3rd 2008, 8:15 PM) *

Well that sure sucks.


The way they ended her last episode, they could have gone anywhere with it. We have no idea if that is a good RepliWeir or a bad RepliWeir. What were they now going to begin to do? They left it hanging. I'm sure for a reason, but it would be nice to have it back, in some fashion.
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post Feb 4th 2008, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(IndyJan @ Feb 4th 2008, 9:28 PM) *

The way they ended her last episode, they could have gone anywhere with it. We have no idea if that is a good RepliWeir or a bad RepliWeir. What were they now going to begin to do? They left it hanging. I'm sure for a reason, but it would be nice to have it back, in some fashion.

What do we even mean by RepliWeir?

Are we talking about the Elizabeth Weir born on Earth versus a clone made by the Asuran rebels, and do we even know that there are two of them?
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We were told the original Weir died. The last Weir we saw was a Replicator and since we haven't seen anything to the contrary yet, we have to assume Human Weir is dead and that a Replicator copy was made and still survives.
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QUOTE(Dafmeister @ Feb 5th 2008, 1:33 PM) *

We were told the original Weir died. The last Weir we saw was a Replicator and since we haven't seen anything to the contrary yet, we have to assume Human Weir is dead and that a Replicator copy was made and still survives.

She wasn't a Replicator though. She was actually organic, but because she had nanites in her system, she had superior healing abilities.
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QUOTE(Revan @ Feb 5th 2008, 2:52 PM) *

She wasn't a Replicator though. She was actually organic, but because she had nanites in her system, she had superior healing abilities.


As Daf said, we were told that the "real" Weir, for lack of a better word, was dead. We have to go with that. The Weir we saw at the end was a Replicator/Asuran, but was not real. Like I said, we don't know if she was good or evil.
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post Feb 5th 2008, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(IndyJan @ Feb 5th 2008, 4:57 PM) *

As Daf said, we were told that the "real" Weir, for lack of a better word, was dead. We have to go with that. The Weir we saw at the end was a Replicator/Asuran, but was not real. Like I said, we don't know if she was good or evil.

That didn't make sense.

Are you creating an entirely new category and saying there is a Replicator version of Weir running around?

We don't know that Repli-Keller was telling the truth, which is my point.
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QUOTE(Revan @ Feb 5th 2008, 10:06 PM) *

That didn't make sense.

Are you creating an entirely new category and saying there is a Replicator version of Weir running around?

We don't know that Repli-Keller was telling the truth, which is my point.


Until we know differently, we have to go by what Repli-Keller said, Weir is dead. That being said, the Weir at the end was a Replicator or an Asuran, whatever you want to call her. Now was she good or evil? That we don't know. That is what I was trying to get across. It would be nice to have that story play out.
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QUOTE(IndyJan @ Feb 6th 2008, 1:36 AM) *

Until we know differently, we have to go by what Repli-Keller said, Weir is dead. That being said, the Weir at the end was a Replicator or an Asuran, whatever you want to call her. Now was she good or evil? That we don't know. That is what I was trying to get across. It would be nice to have that story play out.

I'm still confused.

Do you mean that the Weir at the end was the clone created by the rogue Asurans, and that she wasn't killed after the Jumper crash? We have never seen an Asuran version of Weir, only the original, who was repaired using nanites, and the clone the rogues created, which still had nanites inside (because the nanites built her, though she was technically an organic being) for regenerative purposes.
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i think this will be a time travel episode probably done in the same way as 1969! as in a solar flare sent him forward in time.
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QUOTE(lancelot2 @ Feb 6th 2008, 8:09 AM) *

i think this will be a time travel episode probably done in the same way as 1969! as in a solar flare sent him forward in time.

Was that one of the instances in which Carter was required to override the gate's safety procedures?
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QUOTE(Revan @ Feb 6th 2008, 8:51 AM) *

I'm still confused.

Do you mean that the Weir at the end was the clone created by the rogue Asurans, and that she wasn't killed after the Jumper crash? We have never seen an Asuran version of Weir, only the original, who was repaired using nanites, and the clone the rogues created, which still had nanites inside (because the nanites built her, though she was technically an organic being) for regenerative purposes.

At the moment all we know is Weir is dead. We don't what the Weir, that we saw at the end of episode 11, is. She could be an organic clone or she could be a Replicator. We know the Asurans can assume the image of anyone they want, it is possible that a Replicator Weir has been created and since she said they can now go ahead with their plan without having to look over their shoulders, I wouldn't say she was an organic Weir. I can't see Asurans taking orders from a Human clone.
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