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| commaste91 |
Nov 18th 2007, 7:01 PM
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We see everywhere in the Atlantis that there are like decorations with water and everything. Is there for some reason these "decorations" have a purpose?
Also the Stargate. The event horizon looks like water. Whats with that? |
| Dafmeister |
Nov 18th 2007, 7:08 PM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
All we see is an occasional tube with water running through it. Given Atlantis' associating with water, it's a natural element to have present. Look at the other Ancient structures we have seen, there is no flowing water in the design. Who knows, maybe it is part of the technology that allows the city to float.
As for the EH, there is nothing "with it". TPTB just decided to represent it in that way. |
| Invisible Painting |
Nov 18th 2007, 7:16 PM
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Lieutenant General Group: Members Posts: 6,340 Joined: November 29th 2003 From: Aberystwyth, Wales. (And sometimes London) Member No.: 2,819 Gender: Male |
I watched an audio commentary from Atlantis about a week ago where they were jokingly saying they were trying to film as much water in the episode as possible after a few shots opened up with running water in Atlantis. I think it's just a decoration though, to go with the theme of water that the city seems to have.
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| Revan |
Nov 18th 2007, 8:02 PM
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Dark Lord of The Sith Group: Moderators Posts: 4,455 Joined: February 1st 2006 From: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A., Terra Firma Member No.: 11,056 Gender: Male |
One of the audio commentaries describes those water thingies as "water purification" systems.
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| KillerMarv |
Nov 18th 2007, 11:44 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 3,441 Joined: April 7th 2006 From: Bucharest, Romania Member No.: 11,622 Gender: Male |
Also the Stargate. The event horizon looks like water. Whats with that? The Stargate has looked like that since the movie. It has no connection whatsoever with the Ancients since they were not thought up back then. The reason why it looks like water was probably for special effects. |
| commaste91 |
Nov 19th 2007, 3:57 AM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: November 19th 2006 Member No.: 12,813 Gender: Male |
The Stargate has looked like that since the movie. It has no connection whatsoever with the Ancients since they were not thought up back then. The reason why it looks like water was probably for special effects. OK but in a SG episode in season 4 called Water Gate. We find a new kind of energy based society. They look almost like the event horizon of a Stargate, and they also give off energy. What if these "decorations" is Atlantis is a way of storing energy? Just a thought here. |
| Revan |
Nov 19th 2007, 4:07 AM
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Dark Lord of The Sith Group: Moderators Posts: 4,455 Joined: February 1st 2006 From: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A., Terra Firma Member No.: 11,056 Gender: Male |
Since Atlantis sits on water, it is logical to assume they would simply use the abundant resource all around them, instead of seeking it elsewhere. I think the commentary opinion can probably be taken as canon. Those trickling water thingies are water purifiers and probably transfer conduits.
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| lancelot2 |
Nov 19th 2007, 9:02 AM
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Since Atlantis sits on water, it is logical to assume they would simply use the abundant resource all around them, instead of seeking it elsewhere. I think the commentary opinion can probably be taken as canon. Those trickling water thingies are water purifiers and probably transfer conduits. and it's probably a desalinisation treatment too (changing salt water into pure water)(i've always wondered where atlantis got fresh water from in the first year that the humans were there and now it seems we know) |
| JTMAG1 |
Nov 19th 2007, 11:29 AM
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The Last Shogun Group: Members Posts: 3,888 Joined: August 28th 2004 From: Long Beach, CA USA Member No.: 6,251 Gender: Male |
OK but in a SG episode in season 4 called Water Gate. We find a new kind of energy based society. They look almost like the event horizon of a Stargate, and they also give off energy. What if these "decorations" is Atlantis is a way of storing energy? Just a thought here. We know where the Ancients got their power, It wasn't from a race of water beings, and those water beings were sentient. I don't think the Ancients would have kept them captive in order to power or decorate their city. |
| Dafmeister |
Nov 19th 2007, 1:47 PM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
OK but in a SG episode in season 4 called Water Gate. We find a new kind of energy based society. They look almost like the event horizon of a Stargate, and they also give off energy. What if these "decorations" is Atlantis is a way of storing energy? How do they look like the EH? The beings in 'Watergate' exist in the water, we have no idea what they actually look like. I don't see how you can compare the appearance of an alien race to the way the EH looks.Just a thought here. |
| lancelot2 |
Nov 20th 2007, 10:14 AM
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How do they look like the EH? The beings in 'Watergate' exist in the water, we have no idea what they actually look like. I don't see how you can compare the appearance of an alien race to the way the EH looks. dafs right the beings were microscopic and only lived in the water(they could also control it too) really it was a little like an old star trek tng episode with the sand microbes (i've forgotten the episode name). |
| Revan |
Nov 20th 2007, 2:13 PM
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dafs right the beings were microscopic and only lived in the water(they could also control it too) really it was a little like an old star trek tng episode with the sand microbes (i've forgotten the episode name). I think that the water was the organisms... That was Home Soil, was it not? |
| JTMAG1 |
Nov 20th 2007, 2:16 PM
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| lancelot2 |
Nov 21st 2007, 9:33 AM
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I was also under the impression that the organisms were the water. Similar to how the mist were the organisms in that SGA ep. I'm fairly sure that they organisms were in the water but i could be wrong it's been about a year and a half since i last saw the episode but it was my impression that the organisms where in the water and that there were millions of them in the water that we saw(the small amount that maybourne swallowed). |
| KillerMarv |
Nov 21st 2007, 1:21 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 3,441 Joined: April 7th 2006 From: Bucharest, Romania Member No.: 11,622 Gender: Male |
I'm fairly sure that they organisms were in the water but i could be wrong it's been about a year and a half since i last saw the episode but it was my impression that the organisms where in the water and that there were millions of them in the water that we saw(the small amount that maybourne swallowed). I actually remember the same thing. It would basically be impossible for the water to be alive without the presence of micro-organisms in it. |
| lancelot2 |
Nov 22nd 2007, 10:24 AM
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I actually remember the same thing. It would basically be impossible for the water to be alive without the presence of micro-organisms in it. besides which if it was the water itself that was alive it'd be impossible for there to be more than one organism which maybourne clearly stated that there was. |
| Revan |
Nov 22nd 2007, 10:31 AM
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| JTMAG1 |
Nov 22nd 2007, 12:21 PM
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| lancelot2 |
Nov 23rd 2007, 10:25 AM
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Why would it be impossible for there to be more than one organism? because the water would be one mass making it one organism it wouldn't be seperate so you wouldn't be able to have more than one(I do know that I haven't explained this very well but i can't quite put my thoughts onto paper). |
| Invisible Painting |
Nov 23rd 2007, 11:18 AM
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because the water would be one mass making it one organism it wouldn't be seperate so you wouldn't be able to have more than one(I do know that I haven't explained this very well but i can't quite put my thoughts onto paper). Think of it like worms, you can cut them in half and both halves live (although I've heard that's just an urban rumour, but you get the point) it doesn't have to be one organism. Kinda like the gas clouds from Home that was billions of organisms not just one big mass of gas! |
| JTMAG1 |
Nov 23rd 2007, 12:21 PM
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The Last Shogun Group: Members Posts: 3,888 Joined: August 28th 2004 From: Long Beach, CA USA Member No.: 6,251 Gender: Male |
Think of it like worms, you can cut them in half and both halves live (although I've heard that's just an urban rumour, but you get the point) it doesn't have to be one organism. Kinda like the gas clouds from Home that was billions of organisms not just one big mass of gas! That is exactly what I was thinking about. because the water would be one mass making it one organism it wouldn't be seperate so you wouldn't be able to have more than one(I do know that I haven't explained this very well but i can't quite put my thoughts onto paper). Regular water is not even one mass. It's made up of tiny little individual H2O Molecules, yet they all work together to create currents and waves and tides and all that stuff. You can extract a small amount, and the mass continues to behave in the same way. |
| Revan |
Nov 23rd 2007, 7:49 PM
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because the water would be one mass making it one organism it wouldn't be seperate so you wouldn't be able to have more than one(I do know that I haven't explained this very well but i can't quite put my thoughts onto paper). Many bitty little organisms (microscopic) all coming together to create a consciousness... Think of it like a town hall meeting... many voices eventually settle on a course of action. |
| commaste91 |
Nov 28th 2007, 8:23 AM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: November 19th 2006 Member No.: 12,813 Gender: Male |
Guys I think that the event horizon is these water life forms. It might sound weird. I mean look at the episode Watergate when the sub is being crushed. The front window breaks but no water comes into the sub, which means that there is life forms in the water, which can control the water. They could be like the life forms that where in the Atlantis episode Home.
Also I don't think that those water things in Atlantis where Water Purifiers cause if you look in the episode Travellers you will see a lot of them on the Ancient Ship. |
| JTMAG1 |
Nov 28th 2007, 11:46 AM
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The Last Shogun Group: Members Posts: 3,888 Joined: August 28th 2004 From: Long Beach, CA USA Member No.: 6,251 Gender: Male |
Guys I think that the event horizon is these water life forms. It might sound weird. I mean look at the episode Watergate when the sub is being crushed. The front window breaks but no water comes into the sub, which means that there is life forms in the water, which can control the water. They could be like the life forms that where in the Atlantis episode Home. Also I don't think that those water things in Atlantis where Water Purifiers cause if you look in the episode Travellers you will see a lot of them on the Ancient Ship. Was this a joke? What you seen when you look at the active gave is just a visualization. You can't actually see the wormhole, so you see the water effect to know that the gate is active. Why can't the ancient ship have a water purification system? It's hard to get water in space and it would be very helpful if they could purify the water they have. |
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