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post Oct 9th 2007, 8:57 PM
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If Carter does come she is a higher rank than Sheppard so he would not be in charge. She is a Full bird col. he is not.

Sheppard seemed overly angry in this episode. Most of the main characters to me did not seem like themselves.

Is Carter a full time or part time character on the show?

Weir is not gone fully is she? I thought she was going to stick around. Although, why oh why do the producers think that a show cannot have many strong woman in a show. I doubt they will keep Carter, Teyla, Wier on the show together because GOD forbid a show have 3 woman in it. sad.gif

Invisible that is the funnyest thing I have seen in a long time. Cliffhanger. LOL laugh.gif Dumbasses. smile.gif
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post Oct 9th 2007, 9:09 PM
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QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Oct 9th 2007, 9:57 PM) *

Is Carter a full time or part time character on the show?

Weir is not gone fully is she? I thought she was going to stick around. Although, why oh why do the producers think that a show cannot have many strong woman in a show. I doubt they will keep Carter, Teyla, Wier on the show together because GOD forbid a show have 3 woman in it. sad.gif

Torri's name has been replaced in the opening credits by Amanda and she was listed as a guest star, not a member of the regular cast, if that tells you anything.
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post Oct 9th 2007, 9:57 PM
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QUOTE(IndyJan @ Oct 9th 2007, 10:20 PM) *

See once again his arrogance was in control. Rodney felt he was the better person for command. Shep had to set him straight. Everyone was saying that Rodney's character changed in season 3, but it didn't. I had hoped it would, but he is still out there. It's the one major reason I was looking forward to Sam coming. McKay knows that Sam not only is smarter then he is, but she also has the military training and background. He can't stand that. I'm hoping that she will be able to put him down once in awhile. Rodney gets Shep mad all the time because of this. All the time Shep forgives him. I would like to see where Shep won't talk to McKay for a couple of episodes because McKay has messed up so badly due to his arrogance.

Tbh, I was hoping for this after Trinity, but the writers didn't deliver. I was looking forward to seeing how sheppard would react in the next episode but he didn't, everything was standard and normal. I was really dissapointed by that. I think now in the show though they are more aware of consequences and following up though, this argument was the first real one the two characters genuinely had (they'd had dissagreemets sure, but not arguments) and it was refreshing to see. And I hope to see more of it again. But it was one of the best scenes in the episode, because it really stood out. And it was one instance where Sheppard would not normally forgive him, but he did here through a simple appology here. Which again, I felt he could not have and it would have been more powerfull. But OH well.
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post Oct 10th 2007, 12:01 AM
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How mad could Shep have been? Rodney initiated a dangerous plan that he didn't think was worth the risk, in order save someone important to them. Something that Sheppard can understand and has done in the past.
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post Oct 10th 2007, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(IndyJan @ Oct 8th 2007, 9:53 PM) *

Sheppard's point of view was spot on. Once again, Rodney showed his arrogance in the all-knowing, I can do anything mentality. I hoped that Rodney would have learned some humility from last season, but obviously he has not. Shep had legitimate concerns, and he truly knew what Elizabeth would have wanted to do. When she returned she said this was a very bad mistake. Having Sam on the show, I'm hoping that her character will be able to tone Rodney down a bit. He is starting to become my least favorite character on the show. sad.gif


Rodney has been my least favorite character since day one.

To be clear, I have no problems with the Actor, just the whining Character he portrays. king.gif
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post Oct 10th 2007, 3:30 PM
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QUOTE(Ziu @ Oct 10th 2007, 5:34 PM) *

Rodney has been my least favorite character since day one.

To be clear, I have no problems with the Actor, just the whining Character he portrays. king.gif

I have to disagree with you,true when he was on sg1 I didn't like the character and he was really
whiney but since he's been on atlantis i'd say he's changed a lot.
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post Oct 10th 2007, 4:54 PM
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QUOTE(JTMAG1 @ Oct 10th 2007, 6:01 AM) *
How mad could Shep have been? Rodney initiated a dangerous plan that he didn't think was worth the risk, in order save someone important to them. Something that Sheppard can understand and has done in the past.

It seemed to me that Sheppard was too keen to let Weir die. How often has Weir done everything she could to save him and he decides not to help her. Rodney made the right call by saving her because she has done the same for all of the team. Sheppard had also given orders to have her murdered after Rodney said the process was a success. Given how many times the team has saved him, he should have given Rodney they benefit of the doubt.
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post Oct 10th 2007, 5:02 PM
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QUOTE(Dafmeister @ Oct 10th 2007, 10:54 PM) *

It seemed to me that Sheppard was too keen to let Weir die. How often has Weir done everything she could to save him and he decides not to help her. Rodney made the right call by saving her because she has done the same for all of the team. Sheppard had also given orders to have her murdered after Rodney said the process was a success. Given how many times the team has saved him, he should have given Rodney they benefit of the doubt.

But he knew Rodney was just being arrogant, and didn't want to risk losing the city when he knows the stakes are too risky. He also knew that she wouldn't have wanted to endanger everyone like that and that she probably wouldn't want it in the first place. I think he was right personally to have made the decision, it's episode two that I dissagree with a decision he made.
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But this I felt strong, as characters often make wrong decisions to not endanger their cast mates let's face it smile.gif
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post Oct 10th 2007, 10:55 PM
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At first I thought John was too quick to want to shut the nanites back down, but the idea of attracting the Asurans in their current situation was just too dangerous. It wasn't about not wanting to save Weir, it was about weighing her life against all of the others on Atlantis.
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post Oct 10th 2007, 11:45 PM
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I think John had Elizabeth's orders in mind when he gave McKay the order to terminate.

He had already rightly believed that she would nto want to be artificially enhanced by nanites, and she fervently argued that they should kill her if necessary.

I think John did what he had to do.
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post Oct 11th 2007, 2:08 AM
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QUOTE(Revan @ Oct 10th 2007, 11:45 PM) *

I think John did what he had to do.


Yes, John was able to make those tough decisions, much like Jack did. It's what sets a leader apart from others.
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post Oct 12th 2007, 1:25 PM
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QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Oct 10th 2007, 2:57 AM) *
If Carter does come she is a higher rank than Sheppard so he would not be in charge. She is a Full bird col. he is not.
That is only if she has orders to take command of Atlantis. It's like when Caldwell wanted to take over military command of Atlantis, he didn't have orders so Sheppard was still in charge of the military.
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post Oct 17th 2007, 7:28 AM
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This was an ok episode in my opinion, feel like just fixing up the loose ends from last season, so not much story line. Atlantis gone through so many of this kind of situation, it kind of stop being exciting now, you know it would work out since they can't all die.
Interestingly, I think they did pretty good job with weir, I was wondering how they gonna explain her departure from the show.
Good to see Carter, but I wish they would at least mention what happen with SG1, seriously, how in the hell did she get the free time to go to Pegasus, isn't she important for SGC, they could try to fit her in with a better storyline. May be it will come later smile.gif
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post Oct 26th 2007, 1:11 PM
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First of all, it's good to post again. Had a lot of problems lately, but I found enough time to see Atlantis' new season beginning.

Now, I would start by saying this episode totally covered what I wanted this season to being with. That is a two-parter, including the replicators again and Earth not finding a sollution that easily. Also, I liked the idea of using nanites to help Elizabeth. It wasn't surprising but it was quite interesting to see Sheppard's reaction to it. I guess I'll talk about the second part in the other thread.

In any case, nice start of the season. 1.gif
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post Nov 16th 2007, 5:58 PM
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awesome episode love it!!! specially asteroid shooting reminds me ASTEROIDS from Atari but 3d LOL

i have a question where did Sam get the space station where she was in??
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post Nov 16th 2007, 7:03 PM
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i have a question where did Sam get the space station where she was in??

That is midway station whose construction was started in early season 3.
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post Nov 16th 2007, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(Revan @ Nov 16th 2007, 6:03 PM) *

That is midway station whose construction was started in early season 3.


Oh I see I think I Miss that episode
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post Nov 17th 2007, 3:13 AM
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QUOTE(Heru-ER @ Nov 16th 2007, 10:48 PM) *

Oh I see I think I Miss that episode
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The still under construction frame was introduced in S3:
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post Nov 17th 2007, 9:22 AM
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I don't think it was in 'Rising' part 1. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Dafmeister @ Nov 17th 2007, 9:22 AM) *

I don't think it was in 'Rising' part 1. wink.gif

True. The city of Atlantis was introduced in that episode, though.
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