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post Oct 20th 2006, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(Parmenides @ Oct 20th 2006, 6:25 PM) *
How was Shep's 302 able to remain in hyperspace? Don't you need to continue to use your hyperdrive in order to stay in hyperspace, or is that just fan conjecture? Aren't the 302 hyperdrives still unstable, as they always were?
Going by what happened in 'Grace' a ship needs the hyperdrive online to remain in hyperspace. Sheppard could have been about to destroy the hyperdrive when the ships went into hyperspace and some how got dragged in and was able to latch on to the ship in time.


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Why would the Wraith leave Ronon's knife with him? That was just stupid...from the point of view of the Wraith and the writers.
From the perspective of the story, we've seen that Ronon has a lot of knives hidden about his person so it is likely one of those. From the perspective of the writers, the only way they could have escaped (at that point) was if one of them could free himself. Since McKay isn't the type to do that, it had to be Ronon. The knife was just a convenient plot device.
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post Oct 21st 2006, 12:12 AM
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QUOTE(Parmenides @ Oct 20th 2006, 12:25 PM) *

How was Shep's 302 able to remain in hyperspace? Don't you need to continue to use your hyperdrive in order to stay in hyperspace, or is that just fan conjecture? Aren't the 302 hyperdrives still unstable, as they always were?

Why would the Wraith leave Ronon's knife with him? That was just stupid...from the point of view of the Wraith and the writers.

Shep actually attcahed his 302 to the hive ship, so it was was one unit.

Ronan's philosophy is "One for them to find, one for me to keep".
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post Oct 21st 2006, 10:19 AM
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Another strong season opener for Atlantis.

Although, I did feel the Wraith threat to Earth was a bit exagerrated. First off, there was only 2 wraith hive ships heading for Earth, not exactly a fleet. And second they were weeks, possibly over a month away with all the hyperspace pauses. More than enough time to mount some sort of defence. They could have even fully repaired the Daedalus and Orion and then send them to intercept the Wraith in the Milky Way.

Still, the battles were great. Caldwell did a good job in command of the Daedalus. I knew the Orion wouldn't last long, but I was hoping to see a bit more of it in action.

And now they have a Wraith hive ship full of de-Wraithed humans. It will be intresting to see what they are going to do with the ship and the people.
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post Oct 21st 2006, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(JC1 @ Oct 21st 2006, 4:19 PM) *
And now they have a Wraith hive ship full of de-Wraithed humans. It will be intresting to see what they are going to do with the ship and the people.
Sooner or later they will turn into a Wraith similar to Michael so the chances are that they will be put on a planet and be led by Michael.
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post Oct 21st 2006, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(JTMAG1 @ Oct 21st 2006, 6:12 AM) *

Shep actually attcahed his 302 to the hive ship, so it was was one unit.

Ronan's philosophy is "One for them to find, one for me to keep".

Ahh, I was under the impression that he was still in hyperspace when he was flying about, destroying their hyperdrives, but now I realise they weren't. All is well.

That's all well and good about Ronon, but are the Wraith really that stupid to assume he would only have one knife? Wouldn't they have some sort of security scan available anyway, just to be sure? It just seemed a bit weak, plot-wise...
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post Oct 21st 2006, 4:52 PM
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QUOTE(Parmenides @ Oct 21st 2006, 11:18 AM) *

Ahh, I was under the impression that he was still in hyperspace when he was flying about, destroying their hyperdrives, but now I realise they weren't. All is well.

That's all well and good about Ronon, but are the Wraith really that stupid to assume he would only have one knife? Wouldn't they have some sort of security scan available anyway, just to be sure? It just seemed a bit weak, plot-wise...

Without convenient little plot devices like that, we would never get to see the main character captured, because without a means of escape, they would all be killed.
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post Oct 21st 2006, 5:13 PM
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QUOTE(JTMAG1 @ Oct 21st 2006, 10:52 PM) *

Without convenient little plot devices like that, we would never get to see the main character captured, because without a means of escape, they would all be killed.

I refuse to suspend my disbelief! Nevah! 1.gif

That wasn't the only way out of the situation; in fact, Shep and Michael had every intention of rescuing them, they had just already done so with the flimsy knife plot device.

That's all I'm saying. laugh.gif
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post Oct 21st 2006, 8:59 PM
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Why would the Wraith leave Ronon's knife with him? That was just stupid...from the point of view of the Wraith and the writers.


You have to remember that Ronan has more knives on him than the kitchen section of a K-mart 1.gif


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I'm pretty sure that Ford said that on 'The Hive'.
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post Oct 22nd 2006, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(kordone @ Oct 21st 2006, 8:59 PM) *

You have to remember that Ronan has more knives on him than the kitchen section of a K-mart 1.gif
I'm pretty sure that Ford said that on 'The Hive'.

I thought it was Ronan that said it, because he had like 10 knives on him. But it could have been Ford... I think everyone had at least one back up knife but Shep
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post Mar 6th 2007, 8:05 PM
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I truely enjoyed this EP. It has me hyped up to watch the rest of the season already


I Truely hope they don';t just leave those two ships sitting there between earth and atlantis. Repairing them would give us 3 Mother ships...Each very differant from the other. This alone would provide a story line, or at least leave Earth or Atlantis a ship or two... but i digress.

The graphics were pretty darned good and the tension was great.

again, looking foward to the rest of the season.
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QUOTE(cdpage @ Mar 6th 2007, 9:05 PM) *

I truely enjoyed this EP. It has me hyped up to watch the rest of the season already
I Truely hope they don';t just leave those two ships sitting there between earth and atlantis. Repairing them would give us 3 Mother ships...Each very differant from the other. This alone would provide a story line, or at least leave Earth or Atlantis a ship or two... but i digress.

The graphics were pretty darned good and the tension was great.

again, looking foward to the rest of the season.

Three MotherShips?
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post Jul 23rd 2009, 10:19 AM
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How come when The Daedalus fired all of its nukes and the Darts intercepted them, there weren't lots of nuclear explosions? There only seemed to be one and that's when a nuke hit one of the Hives.

I've seen this happen a few times before. Are the nukes on timers or are they set to go off when they reach the intended destination?

Sorry if this has been asked and answered before.
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post Jul 23rd 2009, 5:10 PM
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Nukes have to be detonated electronically don't they? Blowing them up will destroy them but won't make them go nuclear.
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post Jul 23rd 2009, 6:18 PM
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I have no idea, but Daf is probably correct. I don't pay attention to the whys, I just enjoy. smile.gif
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post Jul 23rd 2009, 6:23 PM
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Yeah, I believe the idea is that they don't fully arm until they get very close to the intended target, and blowing them up will not cause the nuclear reaction.

If I remember anything from physics (which I probably don't...) the nuclear matrial is surronded by a spherical arrangement of explosives. These exploses are set up so that when activated, they are blow at precisely the same time, forcing the explosive energy in toward the center. Since the explosion comes from all sides, the unstable atoms are forced toward each other and collide on an atomic level. This collision is what releases the incredible force of an "atomic bomb".

If the bomb is just destroyed by collision or weapons fire, the intricate timing device usually doesn't have a chance to cause the nuclear explosion.

If Marv is around, I'm sure he has a much better explanation.

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