SG ship rankings? Options

[Durakken]

This is a list of all the ships (as to my knowledge it should be all of them) anyone want to give a try at ranking them. I don't remember some of these which is why i don't do it but let's try it ^.^

This is what i think, general names are left off, and dual names are in parenthese

Orii Warship/Orion? (Hippaforalkus)/Aurora?
Atlantis?
Anubis' Mothership
Replicator Ship
Replicator Escape Ship
Puddle Jumper
The O'Neill
Grace Ship
Korolev/Odyssey/Deadalus
X-303? (Prometheus)/Hive Ship?/Valhalla?/Beliskner
Wraith Cruiser
Apophis' Prototype Ship/Apophis' Mothership
Ha'tak
The Daniel Jackson
Wraith Scout Ship
Ancient Transport Ship
Gadmeer terraformer
Tagrean Airship
Martin's Escape Ship?
Al'kesh
X-302?/Wraith Darts?
Death Glider
Needle-Threader
F-302
Tritan/Cerberus/Oran/Muirios' Ship/La'el Montrose's Ship
Tel'tak/Osiris' Ship
X-301?
Troop Transport
Stromos
Bedrosian Shuttle Pod
Poros?/Eurondan Aero fighter/Breeder Drone/Breeder bomber
Aschen Harvester
Goa'uld Escape Ship/Anubis' Escape Pod
Martin's Escape Pod

? is whether or not they are equal or about equal...

Alteran/Orii
Orii Warship
Orion(Hippaforalkus)
Aurora
Atlantis
Puddle Jumper
Ancient Transport Ship

Replicator
Replicator Ship
Replicator Escape Ship

Asgard
The O'Neill
Valhalla
Beliskner
The Daniel Jackson

Tauri
Korolev
Odyssey
Deadalus
X-303(Prometheus)
X-302
X-301
F-302

Wraith
Hive Ship
wraith Cruiser
Wraith Scout Ship
Wraith Dart

Goa'uld
Anubis' Mothership
Apophis' Prototype Ship
Apophis' Mothership
Ha'tak
Al'kesh
Death Glider
Needle-Threader
Troop transport
Tel'tek
Osiris' Ship
Troop Transport
Goauld Escape Ship
Anubis' Escape Ship

Hebridan/Serrakin
Tritan
Cerberus
Oran
Muirios' Ship
La'el Montrose's Ship

Aschen
Aschen Harvester

Miscelaneous
Grace Ship
Gadmeer terraformer
Tagrean Airship
Martin's Escape Ship
Stromos
Bedrosian Shuttle Pod
Poros
Eurondan Aero Fighter
Breeder Drone
Breeder Bomber
Martin's Escape Pod

find all the info at http://stargate.neoseeker.com/stargate_sg1...ie/pages/ships/

This post has been edited by Durakken: Jul 1st 2006, 5:13 PM

[Dafmeister]

It may be easier to group them according to race first. I mean ranking all those in one attempt is difficult.
Two points, the Hippaforalkus and Orion are the same ship and Cerberus is spelled like that.
What episodes were the Oran, Poros, Tritan in?

[KillerMarv]

Also, the Wraith don't have specific Scout Ships, they use Darts for Scouts... like the one from Letters From Pegasus. But, if you're referring to that globe in Childhood's End, well, I wouldn't catalogue that as a ship.

Also, Ancient Warships? You can't say that if you say Aurora and Orion later... A general term and a non-general term for the same set of ships...

For the Asgard... We have three classes: Beliskner, Daniel Jackson and O'Neill. The producers have not set otherwise. And again, I see the generalised term and the specific ships along.

I would call Atlantis an Ancient city-ship to generalise, because we seen another one like it in The Tower

F-302 and X-302 are the same thing. Only difference is that X-302 had a hyperspace window generator... I think you can leave them like that though.

Prometheus is the only X-303, so you can cut that term off... It's better without general terms in this case.

All in all, this looks like a good idea... But group them in races categories too, like Daf said.

[Durakken]

daf, the difference between the F-302 and X-302 were structural (F-302 was made to be taken apart), hyper drive capabilities (both had them but the F-302 was weaker) and a few other things.

marv, the oran and tritan is hebridian/serakken in that race episode, the poros if i remember was the crash landed ship that put the personalities of it's people into daniel.
edit: my bad poros was the ship in SGA that belonged to the olesians, the guys that bartered with the wraith to be left alone.

I seperated them and took out most of the generalized terms after looking at them a bit more ^.^ (it wasn't my list)

This post has been edited by Durakken: Jul 1st 2006, 5:09 PM

[Durakken]

what? noone think differently?

[KillerMarv]

The only different thing I would say:

I don't know... The ability to have drones could make any ship more powerful than an Ori ship. An Ancient warship would send drones posibly through the Ori warship's shields, but that is only speculation, and an Ancient warship would probably have very powerful shields that can withstand that beam weapon. I say that both the Ancient warship and Atlantis are above the Ori warship, and that the Ori warship is on the same scale as the Ancient satellite weapon, which I don't know if it has to be mentioned as a ship.

[OdinisThor'sDad]

How is this ranking them? If the O'neil was better than an Orii ship, then one of the Orii ship would have been destroyed.

[Durakken]

Odin what are you smoking? the o'neill is weaker than an orii ship like it's listed...

It's based on what he have seen and what can be speculated...and also capabilities

for example martin's escape pod is listed last because even though it is probably technologically more advanced than up to the poros it has no way of fighting and it's not built for any other kind of maneuvering other than landing.

likewise the tagrean airship is probably not that much more technologically advanced, but i'm pretty sure it can take on many of the lower dog fighting ships 1 on 1.



The Orii and alteran ships i consider equal so i think the aurora is close to being the same rank as an orii warship

The reason the atlantis i consider weaker is simple... it's size = slower. puddle jumpers are probably the most powerful ship in all reality...it just doesn't have hyperspace capability which makes it weaker overall. also the replicators are prolly a bit stronger than it simply because the pod jumper doesn't have that device to disable their connection on them as far as our knowledge goes.

anubis' mothership is questionable too because if a replicator could get through it's shield it could easilly destroy and since we never saw it 1 on 1 and because it's major "power" factor comes from a weapon that needs to build up.

[JC1]

The ships are ranked below based on the combat capabilities we've seen them display. I've only included the ships we've actually seen in combat, at some point. I didn't include Atlantis as I would consider it a city capable of space travel rather than a ship designed for space travel.


Warships

Ori Warship / Aurora class
Replicator Ship
O'Neill Class / Replicator controlled ship (from "enemies")
Anubis' Mothership (with the eye's)
Apophis Super Mothership
Daniel Jackson class
Beliskner class
Anubis' Mothership (without the eye's)
Wraith Hive ship
Daedalus class / Hatak
Prometheus class / Wratih cruiser
Alkesh

Fighters

Puddle Jumper
Wraith Dart
F302
Death Glider

[Dr. Nuke]

Military Ships

Ori Ships
Aurora Class Vessels
Replicator Hive
O'neill Class Vessels/Replicator infested Beliskner
Daniel Jackson
Beliskner/Anubis Mothership
BC-304/Apophis Mothership
Ori Design Satellite 'Ethon
Alien Ship from 'Grace/Prometheus
Hive Ships
Hatak/Wraith Cruisers
Puddle Jumper
F-302
X-301
F-22a
Alkesh
Wraith Dart
Death Glider
Serrakin Ships 'Space Race
Endoran Aerofighter
Tangeran Gunboat Airship

This post has been edited by Dr. Nuke: Jul 9th 2006, 5:28 AM

[Durakken]

there's a problem with all your lists... The daniel jackson is a science ship... so it is weaker naturally than most sufficiently advanced ships..

[Auntie Em!]

Odinis abviously smokes something a hell of a lot better than you do Durakken. Nice bump you did to bring your dead thread back to life. Throw in a few insults and your a happy camper eh! Nothnig changes for you I see.

Who says the DJ s a science ship?

This post has been edited by Auntie Em!: Jul 10th 2006, 1:27 AM

[KillerMarv]

Question...

Hey, Auntie, what are you talking about? Please, if it is too much to say on a post, you can PM me...

Now, the Daniel Jackson was that ship from New Order? 'Cause I can't remember too well.

[Durakken]

it was still like the first topic when i "bumped" it obviously people are looking but noone is saying anything v.v the point was to ask what is stronger v.v

It is no where stated, but assumed from the information given that it is a science ship. Of course it's going to look pretty strong compared to other science ships, but more than likely it is a science ship.


BTW anyone else notice that the Asgard ships are friggin huge unecesarrily. Pne has to wonder just what exactly do they need such huge vessels for tactically one would assume they'd have much smaller ships along the lines of a super strong oversized al'kesh not a mothership sized vessel with nothing in it.

edit - it was season 8 ep1+2 new order, first said it was the daniel jackson by teal'c...he got the information somehow before the rest of them.

and em is just being a pain again ^.^

This post has been edited by Durakken: Jul 10th 2006, 3:00 AM

[Dafmeister]

Ok people let's stop the pointless arguements. If this thread descends into senseless arguing it will be closed.

BTW anyone else notice that the Asgard ships are friggin huge unecesarrily. Pne has to wonder just what exactly do they need such huge vessels for tactically one would assume they'd have much smaller ships along the lines of a super strong oversized al'kesh not a mothership sized vessel with nothing in it.

Huge ships emphasise their power. What looks more threatening, a small ship or a large ship?

[Durakken]

but smaller ships are faster, more maneuverable, more stable, harder to hit, the list goes on and on >.>

[hobo_joe20]

but smaller ships are faster, more maneuverable, more stable, harder to hit, the list goes on and on >.>

... and don't contain the room for larger power generators, future upgrades, research facilities onboard so you don't have to work off a planet ...

this list too goes on, and on

[Auntie Em!]

Ok people let's stop the pointless arguements. If this thread descends into senseless arguing it will be closed.

Daf, will all due respect your grip is to tight and your sufficating some of the members. Let us banter and play as we always have. This is not a school yard.

Dukk, we know nothing of what goes on in Asgard ships. They could be fully manned and operated.

Oh and being a pain in the ass is something....I enjoy from time to time.

[Revan]

Daf, will all due respect your grip is to tight and your sufficating some of the members. Let us banter and play as we always have. This is not a school yard.

Dukk, we know nothing of what goes on in Asgard ships. They could be fully manned and operated.

Oh and being a pain in the ass is something....I enjoy from time to time.

I am always a pain in the ass.

The Asgard science vessels are about the size of a Ha'tak... hobo_joe is correct, they are large to emphasize power and to be intimidating. They also require room for storage of specimens and the power plant.

[Dafmeister]

Daf, will all due respect your grip is to tight and your sufficating some of the members. Let us banter and play as we always have. This is not a school yard.

Dukk, we know nothing of what goes on in Asgard ships. They could be fully manned and operated.

Oh and being a pain in the ass is something....I enjoy from time to time.

Ok, fine, carry on then. Just don't complain and report a post when it gets out of hand and the personal attacks start.

[gamzwizard]

the asgaurd ships are manned by asgaurd in nemisis thor tells o'niell that he transported everyone off the bilsikner before he destroyed the transporter

This post has been edited by gamzwizard: Jul 10th 2006, 5:07 PM

[Lt Col. Shadow Quinn]

Earth Ships:
DSC-304: Deadalus, Odyssey, Korelev
X/BC-303: Prometheus
X/F-302
X-301

Asgard Ships:
O'Neill class
Berliskner class
Daniel Jackson class

Goa'uld ships:
Anubis's flagship
Apophis's flagship
Sokar's flagship
system lord flagship
Hatak
Al'kesh
Tel'tek
Anubis escape pod
Death Glider

Replicator ship:
Replicator Warship
""Cruiser
"" scout ship

Ancient ships:
Ancient City ship
various unknown battleship classes
Aurora class battleship
Ancient Transport ship
Puddle Jumper

Wraith ships:
Wraith Hive ship
Wraith Cruiser
Wraith Transport ship
Wraith Dart

Ori:
Toilet class warship
Ori raider

Misc:
Grace Ship
Martin Lloyd's capital ship
Stromos
Ceberus
Oran
Titan
Martin Llyod's escape pod
Poros

Those are all the ships I know of right now.

This post has been edited by Lt Col. Shadow Quinn: Jul 23rd 2006, 12:24 AM

[Protoziggy90]

Thank you for being the first person to not say that an Aurora class ship was stronger than a city-ship...

[JTMAG1]

I would have to say that Atlantis would be the most powerful ship, because he is huge drone storage, and an awesome shield. I'm sure it doesn't manuever as well, but with a shield that powerful, you would need as much manueveralbility.

I think the 304s would be much better if they had enough power to sustain the shields longer. In Camelot, they take some direct hits from the Ori ships. What if one of them had a ZPM powering the sheilds (which we already know is possible). I think they could have lasted longer, but they would need better weapons to do some damage.

That reminds me. Why was the Asguard ship's primary weapon so weak? I seemed shot energy blasts not much stronger than the goa'uld ships.