 Stargate Pegasus' replacement for naquadah, wot is the staragtes in the pegasus galaxy made of? |
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| alecjon2002 |
 Mar 8th 2006, 5:22 PM
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we all know that in our galaxy the stargates are made of naquadah we know this from the movie and many other episodes but from wot im aware of pegasus has no naqudah so if the alantians built the stargates syster here aswell wot are they made out of?
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| hobo_joe20 |
Mar 8th 2006, 5:23 PM
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Brigadier General  Group: Members Posts: 2,357 Joined: May 13th 2005 From: Guelph, Ontario Member No.: 9,055 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(alecjon2002 @ Mar 8th 2006, 5:22 PM)  we all know that in our galaxy the stargates are made of naquadah we know this from the movie and many other episodes but from wot im aware of pegasus has no naqudah so if the alantians built the stargates syster here aswell wot are they made out of? .... not Naquidah  |
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| Maximusgeneral1 |
Mar 8th 2006, 9:15 PM
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Technical Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 230 Joined: March 26th 2005 Member No.: 8,617 Gender: Male |
How is this relevant? Just because there is no naquadah doesn't mean that the stargate isn'nt made out of it. There is none in our solar system, yet the stagate on Earth is made of it.
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| SyStEm_LoRd |
Mar 9th 2006, 1:15 AM
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Major  Group: Members Posts: 1,208 Joined: February 5th 2003 From: Australia, Whyalla, SA Member No.: 552 Gender: Male |
1 solar system is a little differnt to a galaxy champ.. 1 gate in our solar system vs thousands of gates in pegasus.. how do we know there is no naquadah in pegasus?
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| Dafmeister |
Mar 9th 2006, 4:11 AM
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QUOTE(SyStEm_LoRd @ Mar 9th 2006, 6:15 AM) 1 solar system is a little differnt to a galaxy champ.. 1 gate in our solar system vs thousands of gates in pegasus.. how do we know there is no naquadah in pegasus? Thats true. Just because we havent been told there is no Naquada in Pegasus, it doesnt mean there is none. We just assume there is none because it hasnt been mentioned. |
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| Protoziggy90 |
Mar 9th 2006, 11:25 AM
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Second Lieutenant  Group: Members Posts: 581 Joined: March 3rd 2006 From: NYC, NY, USA Member No.: 11,304 Gender: Male |
but if there really isn't any naquadah, how did they do it... they must have built the stargates back in our galaxy and flown them over or something... but then again, the difference in elements used to create the stagates in the Pegasus galaxy would explain why they look different...
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| hobo_joe20 |
Mar 9th 2006, 11:37 AM
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Brigadier General Group: Members Posts: 2,357 Joined: May 13th 2005 From: Guelph, Ontario Member No.: 9,055 Gender: Male |
This aspect has been discussed before. Try doing a search for Naquidah in Pegasus or something like that. I definately remember discussing the naquidah in Pegaus gates before ...
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| Rin Daemoko |
Mar 9th 2006, 1:17 PM
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Airman First Class  Group: Members Posts: 60 Joined: September 5th 2005 From: The Dreaming Member No.: 10,072 Gender: Not Telling |
★ Didn't the Tollan build their own Stargate? It did not appear to be made of naquidah (it wasn't dark and gloomy-looking), and then Orlin built one in Samantha Carter's basement (I did not see the episode, so I'm not sure whether or not he acquired any naquidah to build it). So we've established that you can build a stargate out of materials other than naquidah.
As for speculating what the Pegasus Stargates are made of ... I'm not sure if I'd want to speculate, seeing as how it could be any number of elements or compounds. I've been thinking quite a bit about the Nox recently, and I've been wondering if the Nox would have the skill and the knowledge to build a Stargate out of organic material. Effectively "grow" a Stargate. We know that the Wraith more or less grow their ships, and to power such large vessels as a hive ship, those organic components would need to be able to handle channelling vast amounts of energy without frying. So it's not entirely implausible for the Nox to have the ability to grow a Stargate. (I realize this is a bit off-topic, I simply enjoy entertaining the notion of organic technologies.) |
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| Fr34ky |
Mar 31st 2006, 12:47 PM
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the stargate can be made out of anything....it just must be a super-condukter.....
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| Dafmeister |
Mar 31st 2006, 1:12 PM
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QUOTE(Fr34ky @ Mar 31st 2006, 6:47 PM) the stargate can be made out of anything....it just must be a super-condukter..... When was that ever said? Orlin made a Stargate from Titanium and that isnt a superconductor. Just because the Pegaus Stargate dont look like tey are made from Naquada doesnt mean there is no Naquada in them. |
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| Fr34ky |
Mar 31st 2006, 1:15 PM
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that stargate might have been made from titanium but almost every material can be a super-conducter it just needs the right temperature......like 0?K....
and Orlin didnt just made it out of titatium couse his order included many other things... and i believe that Carter said that the stargate alone is just a giant super-conducter in that episode when Anubis tried to destroy Earth with that Ancient weapon that transfers energy to an other gate.....that episode wher McKay appered to hep out.... |
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| Dafmeister |
Mar 31st 2006, 1:20 PM
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QUOTE(Fr34ky @ Mar 31st 2006, 7:15 PM) that stargate might have been made from titanium but almost every material can be a super-conducter it just needs the right temperature......like 0?K.... It is obvious that the Stargate Orlin built hadnt been cooled to 0 Kelvin (mainly because it is impossible to reach absolute zero). Orlin's Stargate was not a suerconductor.QUOTE and i believe that Carter said that the stargate alone is just a giant super-conducter in that episode when Anubis tried to destroy Earth with that Ancient weapon that transfers energy to an other gate.....that episode wher McKay appered to hep out.... Yes, what does that have to do with anything? I'm not disputing the fact that the Stargates are superconductors. |
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| Fr34ky |
Mar 31st 2006, 1:28 PM
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it is not imposible coulse liquid nitrogen is 0?K......thats why we call it absulute
zero couse there is no known thing that is cooler.... and the stargate must be a superconducter and with some other things along and dont ask what things it can open a wormhole.... |
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| Dafmeister |
Mar 31st 2006, 1:36 PM
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QUOTE(Fr34ky @ Mar 31st 2006, 7:28 PM) it is not imposible coulse liquid nitrogen is 0?K......thats why we call it absulute zero couse there is no known thing that is cooler.... Absolute zero is a threoretical temperature that has never been reached. People have come close (to with a few pico-Kelvins) but it has never been reached. QUOTE and the stargate must be a superconducter Like I said, I'm not saying the Stargate isnt a superconductor, I know quite well it is.QUOTE and with some other things along and dont ask what things it can open a wormhole....  This post has been edited by Dafmeister: Mar 31st 2006, 1:38 PM |
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| Fr34ky |
Mar 31st 2006, 1:40 PM
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materials like cupper are supercomduktors not at 0?K but quite some degrees sooner :S and so is Titanium....and what i meant by "along with some other things" is that a superconduket alone does not give you a stargate :S there must be something else within
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| Maximusgeneral1 |
Apr 2nd 2006, 10:54 AM
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Well yeah, you can't just take a large amount of super conductive material and bang you have a Stargate, you need other things to make a wormhole other than some super conductive material.
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| hobo_joe20 |
Apr 2nd 2006, 1:22 PM
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QUOTE(Fr34ky @ Mar 31st 2006, 2:40 PM) materials like cupper are supercomduktors not at 0?K but quite some degrees sooner :S and so is Titanium....and what i meant by "along with some other things" is that a superconduket alone does not give you a stargate :S there must be something else within We have no proof that the stargates themselves are cooled to temperatures that low. If they were, we would have seen the influence of such cold temperatures around the base of the gate (where it contacts the ground), or when people touched it (not sure if they have in Atlantis or not ...) As Daf has already mentioned, how do we know that the Ancients didn't bring Naquidah to Pegasus and build the gates out of it? Afterall, they came from the MW (a place with lots of it) and they built tons of it from Naquidah ... would make sense that they continued to do so. |
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| Fr34ky |
Apr 6th 2006, 3:46 PM
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i'm not saying that it is impossible....i'm just saying that they could have build it from some other material...ok i'm not sure if thats true or not but....what if the gates are only inside made from maquadah? and the outside is lats say out of trinion or something....if it would be that way it could be cooled in the inside....
and maybe naquadah is a superconductor at room temperature or so...who knows what the properties of naquadah are :S |
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| J&S4Ever |
Apr 6th 2006, 4:05 PM
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First of all, I'm guessing that by the "wot" you mean WHAT right?
Why does the element of the Stargate have to be cooled to absolute zero? When was that mentioned? If that were the case, then we would have never gotten the gate on Earth open again. I'm guessing, since we can make synthetic diamonds now, perhaps the Ancients, being as advanced as they were could make synthetic naquadah. Besides, just because Naquadah is not found in our Solar System does not negate the possibility that it exists in other galaxies. Remember, theoretically, the entire universe is made of the same basic elements and Naquadah is an ELEMENT not a compound. So it stands to reason that as an element it can exist in another galaxy, and probably does. |
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| glitterboy2098 |
Aug 5th 2006, 8:32 PM
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QUOTE Didn't the Tollan build their own Stargate? It did not appear to be made of naquidah (it wasn't dark and gloomy-looking), and then Orlin built one in Samantha Carter's basement (I did not see the episode, so I'm not sure whether or not he acquired any naquidah to build it). So we've established that you can build a stargate out of materials other than naquidah. well, Orlin's gate was never intended for more than one use, and lacked a DHD, implying it was built to work with only one destination. as for the Tollan gate, remember that most ships in SG1 are built with Naquidah, or Naq alloys, and they always have different textures and coloration. likewise, the original stargates are definately more than 10 million years old, likely representing an earlier design style and technique. the Tollan learned from the Nox, who had a long time to refine technology. |
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| Dafmeister |
Aug 6th 2006, 3:39 AM
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QUOTE(glitterboy2098 @ Aug 6th 2006, 2:32 AM) remember that most ships in SG1 are built with Naquidah, or Naq alloys, and they always have different textures and coloration. That was only mentioned once though and only in reference to a new alloy created by the Asgard. We don't know what other ships of other races are constructed from. |
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| Jed the Wraith Slayer |
Nov 8th 2006, 7:36 AM
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Wasn't the stargate made out of quartz unless of course Naquida is a type of quartz or Naquidah was combined with Quartz and remember the Ancients could have taken Naquidah with them to build the gates wherever they went.
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| Dafmeister |
Nov 8th 2006, 9:45 AM
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In the movie they said it was made from a quartz-like mineral but it never had a name. In SG-1 it played an important part of the show they had to name it so it was named Naquada.
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| Lancelot |
Nov 11th 2006, 10:31 AM
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i personally don't think that there is naqaudah in the pegasus gates
however i do think that there is naqaudah in the pegasus galaxy just not a great deal of it the reason i don't believe that there is naquada in the pegasus gates is because of the colour of the wormhole if you look at the sg1 wormhole it is a light blue colour but the pegasus ones are green i think this is because of the differences in the composistion of the gates in pegasus compared with the milky way ones. btw i thought that a superconductor was an element or alloy that conducts a lot of electric at room temperature without the need for freezing |
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