 901 - Avalon (Part One) |
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| Rogue Ashrak |
 Jul 3rd 2006, 9:15 AM
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Hero of Time  Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,134 Joined: January 7th 2005 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 7,502 Gender: Male  |
There isn't much of a backstory for Landry (that we know of so far anyway). From what I can gather, he was an old friend of Jack's, and was handpicked by him to be the commander of the SGC, after Jack took Hammonds old post as head of Homeworld Security. Not much more to it than that I'm afraid.
I'm a little annoyed at that whole situation too though. They didn't explain it very well at all. One minute Jack is heading the SGC (Moebius) and the next, Landry is in place with Jack moving to Washington. We ended up having to fill in the blanks ourselves. And I still don't know what the hell Hammond does now that Jack has taken his job. It would be nice to have that clarified. |
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| Dafmeister |
Jul 3rd 2006, 9:54 AM
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General  Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Rogue Ashrak @ Jul 3rd 2006, 3:15 PM)  And I still don't know what the hell Hammond does now that Jack has taken his job. It would be nice to have that clarified. There is speculation that he has been given the job of Secretary of the Air Force.» Click for Spoiler « |
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| Holly Hannah |
Jul 3rd 2006, 10:47 PM
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Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: October 15th 2005 From: Australia Member No.: 10,350 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(Rogue Ashrak @ Jul 4th 2006, 12:15 AM) There isn't much of a backstory for Landry (that we know of so far anyway). From what I can gather, he was an old friend of Jack's, and was handpicked by him to be the commander of the SGC, after Jack took Hammonds old post as head of Homeworld Security. Not much more to it than that I'm afraid. I'm a little annoyed at that whole situation too though. They didn't explain it very well at all. One minute Jack is heading the SGC (Moebius) and the next, Landry is in place with Jack moving to Washington. We ended up having to fill in the blanks ourselves. And I still don't know what the hell Hammond does now that Jack has taken his job. It would be nice to have that clarified. |
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| replicant |
Jul 4th 2006, 12:43 AM
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Airman  Group: Members Posts: 51 Joined: July 27th 2004 Member No.: 5,783 Gender: Male |
Finally we get to see S9 in Australia. To me Landry looks physically similar to Hammond. I took an immediate liking to his character. One thing that bugged me was all the stuff with mitchel at the beginning. why not give Carter the command of SG1 and bring back Jonas. I loved the return of Vala she adds a whole new dimension to the show.
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| Dafmeister |
Jul 4th 2006, 3:15 AM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
They couldn't given Carter command because Amanda had taken time off after her pregnancy. TPTB gave Mitchell command because he was the new character, they wouldn't get a new actor on the show and then just have him appear in the background.
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| Teags |
Jul 5th 2006, 7:49 AM
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Technical Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: December 2nd 2003 From: Perth, Australia Member No.: 2,840 Gender: Female |
I really don't think that TPTB allowed Carter to really grow in her command role in S8... which was really unfair. Now when she comes back from Area 51, she will presummably take a 2IC role again. It's kind of like she would get demoted in a sense.
Wasn't Hammond retiring? That was what i had heard... |
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| Dafmeister |
Jul 5th 2006, 7:57 AM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Teags @ Jul 5th 2006, 1:49 PM) Wasn't Hammond retiring? That was what i had heard... He said he was retiring after his tenure as Commander of the SGC was up before 'Children of the Gods' took place. He has been convinced to take up other commands even though he wanted to retire. If he did retire fromt he Air Force, he is a prime candidate for Secretary of the Air Force as he would be a civilian but out of respect still referred to him by his rank. |
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| Teags |
Jul 5th 2006, 10:50 AM
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Technical Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: December 2nd 2003 From: Perth, Australia Member No.: 2,840 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(Dafmeister @ Jul 5th 2006, 7:57 AM) ...If he did retire fromt he Air Force, he is a prime candidate for Secretary of the Air Force as he would be a civilian but out of respect still referred to him by his rank. Oh wow, really? Is the Secretary of the Air Force actually required to retire before he takes up the position? I'm not really up on my US politics... We already know from certain Season 8 eps that Hammond gets on well with the President, so that would make sense that he would appoint him to that position. |
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| Dafmeister |
Jul 5th 2006, 10:55 AM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
Secretary of the Air Force is a civilian position so for Hammond to have taken the position he would have had to either resigned or retired from the Air Force.
This is just speculation by fans, it has never been said in the show what he actually does but it seems logical given his appearance in 'The Fourth Horseman'. |
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| manfromdownunder |
 Jul 6th 2006, 5:14 PM
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Airman First Class  Group: Members Posts: 67 Joined: April 17th 2006 From: Australia Member No.: 11,666 Gender: Male |
This was a great start to hopeful season, I only saw it last week, (29/06), being in Australia but well worth the wait. This is going to be one hell of a season.
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| IndyJan |
Jul 24th 2006, 5:48 PM
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Lieutenant General  Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,356 Joined: July 17th 2004 Member No.: 5,622 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(Dafmeister @ Jul 3rd 2006, 9:54 AM) There is speculation that he has been given the job of Secretary of the Air Force. » Click for Spoiler « Well considering in an interview RDA didn't even know what had happened to Jack, where he went or what he was doing. He thought O'Neill was somewhere in Washington, D.C. |
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| Xen |
Aug 31st 2006, 7:32 PM
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Senior Airman  Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: May 6th 2006 From: Surrey, BC. Member No.: 11,743 Gender: Male |
Just watched it a week ago. And wow it was good, I've been counting down the days till part 2 and now its only hour and a half away..
I found it really funny how Lt. Colonel Mitchel tried to get the old Sg-1 back together and how they all said no but in the end worked together ( Without Carter) Also the parts with Vala and Daniel. |
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| NiinaC |
 Apr 7th 2007, 4:25 AM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: March 11th 2007 From: Finland Member No.: 13,411 Gender: Female |
I'm actually at Season 4 Episode 1, but I got a sneak peek at this episode.
I love the love-hate daniel and Vala have, I now realize why people like her that much. I had just seen pictures before and didn't like her dominatrix gear  , but after seeing her act I like her.  I also like Mitchell, it's great that he isn't Jack, 'cause that would have pissed me off. ;) I feel blue about Sam being away now... can't wait to sneak peek the Avalon pt.2. Back to my Season 4 now. Incase anyone thinks I'm dense... I actually live in finland where all great shows are atleast 3 years late.  |
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| Invisible Painting |
Apr 7th 2007, 9:34 AM
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Lieutenant General Group: Members Posts: 6,340 Joined: November 29th 2003 From: Aberystwyth, Wales. (And sometimes London) Member No.: 2,819 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(NiinaC @ Apr 7th 2007, 10:25 AM) I'm actually at Season 4 Episode 1, but I got a sneak peek at this episode. I love the love-hate daniel and Vala have, I now realize why people like her that much. I had just seen pictures before and didn't like her dominatrix gear , but after seeing her act I like her. I also like Mitchell, it's great that he isn't Jack, 'cause that would have pissed me off. ;) I feel blue about Sam being away now... can't wait to sneak peek the Avalon pt.2. Back to my Season 4 now. Incase anyone thinks I'm dense... I actually live in finland where all great shows are atleast 3 years late. Nah that's cool, everyone has the right to be behind lol. I'm just wondering why you're checking out footage from 5 years later in the story lol I'd never do that for spoilers |
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| NiinaC |
Apr 9th 2007, 2:30 AM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: March 11th 2007 From: Finland Member No.: 13,411 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(Invisible Painting @ Apr 7th 2007, 5:34 PM) Nah that's cool, everyone has the right to be behind lol. I'm just wondering why you're checking out footage from 5 years later in the story lol I'd never do that for spoilers I think seeing all the Music Videos, I've been permanentely spoilered. ;) I am planning of spending my summer break of two months (it pays off to be teacher) watching season after season of Stargate.  I'll probably be the only pale teacher when school starts again. |
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| KillerDanny |
May 23rd 2007, 2:30 AM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 49 Joined: January 26th 2007 From: Bucharest - Romania Member No.: 13,133 Gender: Male |
Not a big fan of Vala, but she still is likeble in my opinion. This was a great episode. Can't wait to see the second part. I think that Daniel will save Mitchell after he solves his puzzle, but that is just guessing. More remains to be seen about Mitchell, Landry and Vala.
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| IndyJan |
Dec 26th 2007, 1:12 AM
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Lieutenant General Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,356 Joined: July 17th 2004 Member No.: 5,622 Gender: Female |
I rewatched this during the sci-fi marathon today. I was pleasantly reminded that I did like Ben Browder in this first episode. So where did they go wrong? By the end of season 9 and for season 10, I really had a problem with him. I think they tried too hard to make him fit and he didn't. At least not for me. There just wasn't the chemistry that I loved when RDA was involved. BB did have one of the very best lines ever spoken to Daniel Jackson, "I wanted to work with you, Teal'c and Colonel Carter, not two letters, a dash and a number."
 At the same time, I did like Vala in this episode, but it also showed just how she could become old real fast. It was a good thing that they changed her character and had her grow. |
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| wonderland |
Dec 26th 2007, 6:45 AM
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Major General  Group: Donating Members Posts: 3,082 Joined: July 1st 2004 From: KY, United States Member No.: 5,411 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(IndyJan @ Dec 26th 2007, 1:12 AM) I rewatched this during the sci-fi marathon today. I was pleasantly reminded that I did like Ben Browder in this first episode. So where did they go wrong? By the end of season 9 and for season 10, I really had a problem with him. I think they tried too hard to make him fit and he didn't. At least not for me. There just wasn't the chemistry that I loved when RDA was involved. BB did have one of the very best lines ever spoken to Daniel Jackson, "I wanted to work with you, Teal'c and Colonel Carter, not two letters, a dash and a number." For me, it was 'Stronghold'. Mitchell goes blasting his way, alone, onto a Goa'uld ship because he's pissed his buddy is going to die? I found his character's arrogance, considering he was still the 'new guy', unbelieveable and uncalled for. SG-1 should have gone as a team, not having him take the lead and Sam and Daniel cover his back. Or it should have been the other way around, since either Sam or Daniel would have found their way around the ship waaaay easier than he did. |
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| Revan |
Dec 26th 2007, 9:06 AM
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QUOTE(wonderland @ Dec 26th 2007, 6:45 AM) For me, it was 'Stronghold'. Mitchell goes blasting his way, alone, onto a Goa'uld ship because he's pissed his buddy is going to die? I found his character's arrogance, considering he was still the 'new guy', unbelieveable and uncalled for. SG-1 should have gone as a team, not having him take the lead and Sam and Daniel cover his back. Or it should have been the other way around, since either Sam or Daniel would have found their way around the ship waaaay easier than he did. I don't know about that. Mitchell had a lot of time on his hands to study mission reports and tech briefings. I think he would have a fair idea (though not from personal experience) of how to get around a Ha'tak. |
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| Invisible Painting |
Dec 26th 2007, 2:34 PM
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QUOTE(wonderland @ Dec 26th 2007, 11:45 AM) For me, it was 'Stronghold'. Mitchell goes blasting his way, alone, onto a Goa'uld ship because he's pissed his buddy is going to die? I found his character's arrogance, considering he was still the 'new guy', unbelieveable and uncalled for. SG-1 should have gone as a team, not having him take the lead and Sam and Daniel cover his back. Or it should have been the other way around, since either Sam or Daniel would have found their way around the ship waaaay easier than he did. Well I think it was more the fact that he knew in part it was his actions that let his friend get into the condition he was in (Even though it was not his fault, he felt it was) And he felt here that he wouldn't let another friend go through his unaction. So he acted impulsivly and went in. It was a little rash, but hey. I don't have a problem with his character though, I liked him pretty much instantly in this episode, I felt he played it well. And nothing really put me off him as it went along. So I like him. This post has been edited by Invisible Painting: Dec 26th 2007, 2:35 PM |
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| wonderland |
Dec 26th 2007, 5:06 PM
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Major General Group: Donating Members Posts: 3,082 Joined: July 1st 2004 From: KY, United States Member No.: 5,411 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(Invisible Painting @ Dec 26th 2007, 2:34 PM) Well I think it was more the fact that he knew in part it was his actions that let his friend get into the condition he was in (Even though it was not his fault, he felt it was) And he felt here that he wouldn't let another friend go through his unaction. So he acted impulsivly and went in. It was a little rash, but hey. I don't have a problem with his character though, I liked him pretty much instantly in this episode, I felt he played it well. And nothing really put me off him as it went along. So I like him. I think this is what happens when the writers say 'we did a Daniel and a Sam story and a Teal'c story, wait a minute, we need a Mitchell story!' For me, his character never clicked with the rest of the team. Browder did a good enough job but I just never saw his character as being very clearly defined. Honestly, when I'm watching DVD's I fast forward through most of his scenes. This post has been edited by wonderland: Dec 26th 2007, 5:07 PM |
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| Invisible Painting |
Dec 26th 2007, 5:51 PM
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QUOTE(wonderland @ Dec 26th 2007, 10:06 PM) I think this is what happens when the writers say 'we did a Daniel and a Sam story and a Teal'c story, wait a minute, we need a Mitchell story!' For me, his character never clicked with the rest of the team. Browder did a good enough job but I just never saw his character as being very clearly defined. Honestly, when I'm watching DVD's I fast forward through most of his scenes. I agree about the clearly defined bit, if someone asked me to define his character on Farscape, say what he's about, what he's like I could do it really easily. I would struggle a bit more here, the actor is saying the lines, saying them well but trying to say what his character's like is a bit harder. I could probably say a handfull of things while his Farscape character was a lot more clearly defined. It's a case where we see the actor more then the character, but it's still not a terrible thing. I like Mitchells plot about his friend, I found it quite good and it is that type of character stuff that I like to see. I'm not necesserily refering also to the suicide run bit, but the stuff in the hospital was good imo. But the bit about 'needing a Mitchell episode' I wouldn't strike as quite true, especially since Sam or Daniel didn't get their own episodes at about this time This post has been edited by Invisible Painting: Dec 26th 2007, 5:52 PM |
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| IndyJan |
Dec 26th 2007, 8:55 PM
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Lieutenant General Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,356 Joined: July 17th 2004 Member No.: 5,622 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(wonderland @ Dec 26th 2007, 5:06 PM) I think this is what happens when the writers say 'we did a Daniel and a Sam story and a Teal'c story, wait a minute, we need a Mitchell story!' For me, his character never clicked with the rest of the team. Browder did a good enough job but I just never saw his character as being very clearly defined. Honestly, when I'm watching DVD's I fast forward through most of his scenes. Wonder, I have to agree with you. It's why I was surprised when I rewatched it that I liked him in the first one. As I said, most of season 9 and all of season 10, I just didn't. It was because he just didn't fit with the rest of the team. He wanted to have "the team" back, but Mitchell just wasn't a fit, IMO. It was in Prototype that he immediately began pushing buttons, and Daniel got very upset. It was like wait a minute, new guy here. They had Mitchell do that a lot, just push ahead. Mitchell, no matter how many reports he read, did not have first hand experience withe gate travel, fighting the Goa'uld, watching a team member's back, etc. |
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| Sighfienerd |
Dec 30th 2007, 10:49 AM
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Beyond here there be dragons  Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,387 Joined: December 4th 2004 From: Beyond "here" Member No.: 7,150 Gender: Female |
I think Mitchell's strength was his relationship with Teal'c, but I don't believe they let Ben Browder unleash the full force of his skills in this show. Browder is a very intense actor, and I just felt like he was always having to hold back; maybe he was afraid of stepping on the seasoned actor's toes?
Mitchell as a character did have his moments though, I just wish there had been more of them. |
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