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> Voyager, what do people have against it?
LordZippy
post Feb 19th 2006, 12:03 AM
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Three simple things:
- Pathetic plots that went no-where...very often being full of holes so big you could fit the entire galaxy into them.
- Ill conceived ideas.
- Failure to monopolise on potential.
This was especially true post season 3, when they basically said "screw it...we're giving them good stories on DS9, lets give them a bit of t&a on here".
By the end we saw them finding a miraculous way to skip ahead 10,000 light years every other episode (so by the time they'd finished, they should have not only reached Earth but actually have over-shot and ended up in the next galaxy), and starting on a trend of plagiarising stories from earlier Trek and other franchises...a trend that wasn't broken until season 4 of Enterprise started!
Not to mention the pussification of the Borg...and once threatening and deadly enemy, turned into about as much of a menace as the inter-galactic Avon.
If it was just a sci fi series it would have been good, but as a Star Trek series it was just awful.
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post May 5th 2006, 9:05 AM
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The 'pussification' of the Borg originated in ST:TNG, and was further developed in Star Trek: First Contact, after which the Borg were thoroughly 'pussified' in ST: Voyager. mellow.gif

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post May 11th 2006, 4:35 PM
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QUOTE(Eschaton @ May 5th 2006, 3:05 PM) *

The 'pussification' of the Borg originated in ST:TNG

I'd debate that. The Borg only attacted twice in TNG. The second time the Borg were disconnected from the collective, the first time they destroyed nearly 40 ships and were only defeated 'cause they happened to have a link into the collective in the form of Picard.
Come VGR, we saw a single ship virtually take out the entire collective again and again. If a single ship can be that powerful, it really does make the rest of Starfleet look incredibly incompetent.
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post May 12th 2006, 9:08 PM
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A single ship that was far more advanced than anything Starfleet had. tongue.gif

Besides, it was uber easy to destroy the Borg in First Contact.. it took like 2 seconds once the Enterprise was there.
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post Sep 23rd 2006, 4:17 PM
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i found voyager the best series mainly because unlike the other series thy couldnt just go hey admiral bla bla bla i need a fleet of ships here to help us in a conflict, which was what they wud usually do every 5 seconds in the other series even though the backup turned up 2 or 3 hours late >.< and at the end of the episode they couldnt just go, set a course for starbase 224 or somin which was what they always used to do at the end of tng and restock supplies so there

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